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View Poll Results: Your confidence level in Todd Collins?
Very confident... the Bears game was not a fluke 40 26.85%
On the fence, he could go either way 94 63.09%
Not confident at all... the Bears game was a fluke 15 10.07%
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:30 PM   #31
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I said "not confident at all." The man is a career backup. I just don't see him, stepping into the light and taking us to the playoffs. I'd love to see it, but I won't believe it until I do...
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:41 PM   #32
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The only way Collins can be successful is, if the O-line gives him time to get rid of the ball. If the opposing D pressures him it could be bad, sacks and INT's are the possibility. From what I've seen is he's slow, I guess will see. Another concern is our DB's are beat up and opposing offenses will be bombing away at us. The good things are that we got a 10 day rest and it's a late game on Sunday.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:14 PM   #33
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I don't know if Collins could throw a football through a pane of glass. He does seem comfortable knowing where to throw it though.

If I'm NY, I'm watching old Chiefs tape. This could be less about matchups and more about scheme.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:27 PM   #34
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SO, what if Collins continues to play amazingly, we win out, make the playoffs, and then Jason is healthy to play the first playoff game? What then?
I say go with Campbell..If he can play and has any mobility...he should start...
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:35 PM   #35
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I like the question but let's just try to win a game against the G-men then we can talk a little more. With that being said IF TC wins out i don't think you can put JC in for the playoffs. If we win out it will be b/c of TC's play, so play him.

I do think there is a reason he is a back up and we have NO running game so let's hope they win Sunday.
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Old 12-10-2007, 02:36 PM   #36
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he's been good in preseason already and had the exact same look during the bears game. Everything looks easy with him. I just hope he'll be that efficient when we really need him and his experience.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:00 PM   #37
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I am very pleased that Todd Collins had a very good outing after Jason Campbell's injury. I'm on the fence. I'm not overly confident he can repeat, but I want him to succeed. His success should have nothing to do with Jason Campbell being the starter. Collins may be efficient but Campbell is physically more capable and will eventually become more efficient thus becoming much more valuable. If Collins plays lights out these last three games, he may have to be the playoff quarterback.
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:02 PM   #38
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Re: Collins & Saunders

We'll see--the noodle arm has me worried, but he looks comfortable, no doubt. And he's got very nice touch on the ball.

As for JC coming back this year, I don't see the point. Why risk your future, if your backup has taken you to the playoffs? Unless he heals amazingly fast, he's not going to be 100% in the best case scenario.

On opening the playbook for JC, I'd like to have seen them do more, but it's understandable, to be sure. No doubt, Gibbs has serious input there, and they watch tape and try to make it easiest for JC to succeed. And Gibbs so very much hates TOs. (Of course, JC has turned it over anyway, but you see the reasoning.)

Liked Vermeil's comments--hope he's right!
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:12 PM   #39
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I don't think Vermeil has ever said a bad word about anybody. So... being slightly effusive in his praise of Collins doesn't do all that much for me. Still, I hope you guys are right.
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Old 12-11-2007, 12:58 AM   #40
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I'm actually a little pissed that Al's been holding back on the play calling because JC was in there. If he's the guy, then he's the guy. Call the best gameplan to win, not whatever percentage of your "genius" playbook that you think he can handle. That really irritates me.
yeah that does seem kind of stupid..dont waiver your calling because you dont believe in a guy as u do in another
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:22 AM   #41
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The Bears hadn't seen much of him, making his style a surprise, they were ready for JC. When a team has scouted him, there will be a big difference, so this will be unlikely to see the same results.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:45 AM   #42
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yeah that does seem kind of stupid..dont waiver your calling because you dont believe in a guy as u do in another
It has nothing to do with believing or not believing in a guy. The Redskins fully believe in Campbell, but the reality is he's a first year starter, so he's going to be treated differently than a 10 year vet.
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Old 12-11-2007, 02:28 PM   #43
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Re: Collins & Saunders

For this upcoming game against the Giants, it's not so much about Todd Collins as it is the protection our O-line gives him.

Umenyora and Strahan vs. the Redskins O-line as they're performing right now makes me fear for Collins' health.
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The Bears hadn't seen much of him, making his style a surprise, they were ready for JC. When a team has scouted him, there will be a big difference, so this will be unlikely to see the same results.
Collins also benefitted from guys like Moss being healthy and ARE also Randy Thomas returning....
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For this upcoming game against the Giants, it's not so much about Todd Collins as it is the protection our O-line gives him.

Umenyora and Strahan vs. the Redskins O-line as they're performing right now makes me fear for Collins' health.
Thats a very good point. I agree. The key will be how much time and protection Collins has. Not to mention the running game which has been pathetic the past two weeks. Collins needs the the running game to work in order for the play action pass to be successful.

The o-line will have to come up huge this Sunday night.
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