Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar

Gibbsmeatitle#1 · 12-18-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think he needs to attend some tackling clinics.

Roy 'lasso" Williams looks like he could use a leave of absence like that ol' hockey boy, Chris Simon. Rollin Rollin Rollin, I'll horse collar till your swollen, Royhide!

GhettoDogAllStars · 12-18-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel

I've looked at that hit several times, and I'm not impressed. He didn't do anything spectacular. He was in the right place, at the right time, and he just jumped in the air. Big deal. He even turned his body away from Schobel at the last second -- not a sign of a great tackle.

Great tackles are where the defender breaks down, wraps up, and drives the ball carrier back, and down into the turf. I remember a time when that was important. Sigh.

sandtrapjack · 12-18-2007, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DGreene28

If a player lays a hard hit on somebody and doesn't get up afterward it loses some of the effect, I don't care how hard it was ... after watching the hit it seems Schobel made it off the field before Hamlin. Doesn't Hamlin have a plate in his head from the fight in Seattle?

In case you missed it Sunday, Schobel went to the locker room and was done for the day. Hamlin was out for the mandatory one play and finished the game.

onlydarksets · 12-19-2007, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigmarley4

Roy Williams is overrated, as many have said. He can't cover and is a cheapshot expert.

As far as Hamlin's hit goes, I don't really see anything wrong with it. He led with his shoulder at the receiver to break up the play. Great timing and hit there. As someone earlier said, if ST did that we'd be like "Hell yeah!" Of course, if LL did it, there would be a penalty. Not for the hit, but the smack talking afterwards

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Looked like helmet-to-helmet to me. I'd be less pissed if ST/Landry did it, but I still wouldn't be happy about it. After all, we don't need a Roy Williams on the team - we just need a gifted safety who can tackle and lay the wood.

theJBexperience · 12-19-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Lets see....no flag.....no penalty.....no fine......and that hit was illegal how? Oh because Nicknack said so!

Even Aikman said so. It was helmet to helmet. It should've been a penalty.

sandtrapjack · 12-19-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by theJBexperience

Even Aikman said so. It was helmet to helmet. It should've been a penalty.

Oh well Aikman, a sports broadcaster, why did'nt you say so. Lets just get the commish on the phone right now if thats the case. Wow Aikman said so!

onlydarksets · 12-19-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Oh well Aikman, a sports broadcaster, why did'nt you say so. Lets just get the commish on the phone right now if thats the case. Wow Aikman said so!

Are you arguing that it wasn't helmet-to-helmet? Or that it wasn't "unnecessary"? Or are you arguing that helmet-to-helmet isn't a penalty?

SouperMeister · 12-19-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbsmeatitle#1

Roy 'lasso" Williams looks like he could use a leave of absence like that ol' hockey boy, Chris Simon. Rollin Rollin Rollin, I'll horse collar till your swollen, Royhide!

Royhide!!! Gotta love it - best laugh I've had all week ;-)

SkinEmAll · 12-20-2007, 01:45 AM

Ol' Roy does know the proper way to tackle, he chooses the easy, dangerous way instead, plain and simple. I hope the NFL makes it a stiffer penalty and suspension next time. Listen, my son started mighty mite (7-9yr)
football this past year and the one drill they did the most was...... you guessed it, tackling, the proper way, so as to reduce the chance of injury. Maybe Ol'Roy needs to go back to pee wee football basic, fundemental tackling drills.

sandtrapjack · 12-20-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Are you arguing that it wasn't helmet-to-helmet? Or that it wasn't "unnecessary"? Or are you arguing that helmet-to-helmet isn't a penalty?

I dont believe it was helmet to helmet. It appears that Hamlin is turning his body going in and makes contact with his right shoulder. But that is one mans opinion. Just like you have yours, and yes Aikman has his.

But the point I was trying to make, is there is no doubt the NFL League offices has reviewd this hit over and over again trying to determine if there is cause for discipline or a fine. And no fine has come down, the coach and team have not recieved any warnings from the NFL, and it appears the NFL finds nothing wrong with the hit, it was legal. The apparent non-action of the league with regard to this play indicates that.

freddyg12 · 12-20-2007, 09:11 AM

All this talk about Roy Williams, but I'm surprised the nfl didn't hit D. Ware w/ a fine after he body slammed Kitna. That was after Newman made his comments about having $ to pay for anyone's fine.

sandtrapjack · 12-20-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

All this talk about Roy Williams, but I'm surprised the nfl didn't hit D. Ware w/ a fine after he body slammed Kitna. That was after Newman made his comments about having $ to pay for anyone's fine.

The NFL DID fine DeMarcus Ware 12,500 for that body slam on Kitna.

railcon56 · 12-20-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Oh you mean like Ken Hamlin did on Sunday?

YouTube - Ken Hamlin blows up Matt Schobel

He should be suspended for that hit..

BrunellMVP? · 12-20-2007, 12:11 PM

No story here, Williams' tackle was dirty...he's knows its illegal, yet he's done it many times...he forced the league to suspend him by not changing his methods.

PIG#1 · 12-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Yea It's Pretty Bad To Keep Doing The Horse Collar Tackle And Have It Named After You As A Bad Omen In The N F L.he Knows Better Than To Do That But He Still Does Not Listen.he Deserves To Be Suspended As He Knows That As Well.your Supposed To Learn From Your Misstakes But Not This Guy.as All Cowboys They Think They Are Above The Law.i Don't Think He Intends To Hurt Anyone But If He Happens To Do That To A Qb And They Get Hurt Someone Will Get Even With Him And Then No One Wins.just Keep It Clean Roy.

12-20-2007, 01:45 AM	#54
SkinEmAll Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: BillysBurg, Va. Posts: 489	Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar Ol' Roy does know the proper way to tackle, he chooses the easy, dangerous way instead, plain and simple. I hope the NFL makes it a stiffer penalty and suspension next time. Listen, my son started mighty mite (7-9yr) football this past year and the one drill they did the most was...... you guessed it, tackling, the proper way, so as to reduce the chance of injury. Maybe Ol'Roy needs to go back to pee wee football basic, fundemental tackling drills.

12-20-2007, 09:11 AM	#56
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar All this talk about Roy Williams, but I'm surprised the nfl didn't hit D. Ware w/ a fine after he body slammed Kitna. That was after Newman made his comments about having $ to pay for anyone's fine.

12-20-2007, 12:11 PM	#59
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar No story here, Williams' tackle was dirty...he's knows its illegal, yet he's done it many times...he forced the league to suspend him by not changing his methods. __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

12-20-2007, 03:37 PM	#60
PIG#1 Camp Scrub Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: charlotte,nc Posts: 39	Re: Roy Williams Suspended 1 Game For Horse Collar Yea It's Pretty Bad To Keep Doing The Horse Collar Tackle And Have It Named After You As A Bad Omen In The N F L.he Knows Better Than To Do That But He Still Does Not Listen.he Deserves To Be Suspended As He Knows That As Well.your Supposed To Learn From Your Misstakes But Not This Guy.as All Cowboys They Think They Are Above The Law.i Don't Think He Intends To Hurt Anyone But If He Happens To Do That To A Qb And They Get Hurt Someone Will Get Even With Him And Then No One Wins.just Keep It Clean Roy.

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