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Should Al Saunders return in '08?

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View Poll Results: Should Al Saunders return next year to run the offense?
Yes, continuity is key 101 60.84%
Yes, but only if Gibbs gives him total control 53 31.93%
No, Gibbs should take back control of the offense and be the OC 10 6.02%
No, get another offensive coordinator 2 1.20%
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:39 AM   #61
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

I can't wait until Sunday when Al Saunders will vindicate himself by calling everything right no matter how many starters the Cowboys rest! We could have won the first game against the Cowboys but the Redskins like to make things exciting. Super Bowl here we come. We're better than the Cowboys and the Packers, so who else deserves to be playing there?
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:45 AM   #62
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

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I can't wait until Sunday when Al Saunders will vindicate himself by calling everything right no matter how many starters the Cowboys rest! We could have won the first game against the Cowboys but the Redskins like to make things exciting. Super Bowl here we come. We're better than the Cowboys and the Packers, so who else deserves to be playing there?
can't knock the optimism, but reading this did make me think of Jim Mora. I can hear him saying, "Super Bowl? you kidding me? Super Bowl, don't talk about the super bowl!"

I don't think we're better than dallas, but we can beat them. They've never beaten the skins in the playoffs, 0-3.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:15 PM   #63
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

Saunders should absolutely come back. Most new offenses take a while to get rolling. We saw how well the running game can work when our o-line is healthy and we are seeing how well our passing game can work with Collins in there. I see Jason and the rest of the offense putting it all together next year. I really don't see many offensive holes to fill once we are healthy.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:18 PM   #64
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

Parcell's will probably offer him 5 Mil and Collins 5 Mil after we go to the Super Bowl and Gibbs will still have Campbell and Brunell

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I'm on the fence on this one so I thought I would toss up a poll.

Should Al Saunders return next year to run the offense?
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:31 PM   #65
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I said yes, but only if he gets total control. I also think the only way that will really happen is if Gibbs is not the HC next year. Not that I think he should fully retire, but would be very happy to see Gibbs move into another role within the organization.

I've also started to wonder whether Saunders will choose to move on to bigger and better. He was so successful when he had control of the reigns in KC, and anyone can imagine how frustrating it's probably been to compromise in offensive stategy (particularly in regard to being "influenced" to call 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 run plays in a row when every guy on the opposing team knows exactly what's coming). I remember the heady day of KC's #1 offense very well and that kind of thing NEVER happened.

Anyway, Saunders may have better opportunities emerge outside D.C. and I think it would leave us in worse shape.

I agree with the first sentence...Saunders should be given full control. Disagree with the second sentence. Full control could be given to Saunders even while Gibbs stays as HC. Just give Gibbs a toy/fake motorola headset.
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Old 12-26-2007, 03:38 PM   #66
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

I definitely think we should bring Al back. Continuity is the key and its something we haven't had. Campbell will have 3 years under his belt, and should have a full grasp of the offense by then. I think the signs we are showing now will translate into next season. I can see us being a top 10 offense. As long as we can stay healthy.
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:57 PM   #67
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

It's an absolute- yes. There is no doubt in my mind that you bring him back. No question. This year, the offense has performed better than in any season with the exception of 2005, but that season ended with offensive futility - probably prompting gibbs to hire saunders.

Obviously the qb position was the key to this offense doing well. Collins is very efficient in this offense and the reason why the redskins are doing well lately. It's not a knock on Campbell, but he just needs to correct and work on a few things.

I was probably the only poster on here that said given the chance, Collins would probably do well (which was based on what Saunders said about him when he arrived in DC).
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:18 AM   #68
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

i thought the scheme was a disaster in `06 but were gelling this season. The players needed time ..not al saunders. i say stick with em..at least thru `08.
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:56 AM   #69
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i thought the scheme was a disaster in `06 but were gelling this season. The players needed time ..not al saunders. i say stick with em..at least thru `08.
remember the end of 06 though - we had a serious running game & JC played well. If we'd had half a D we'd have been a solid team.
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:36 AM   #70
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

i say keep al and everybody else here cause it will benefit the whole team and organization...we should know by now that the more you change the worse off you,ll be...but if al receives a phone to be someones head coach then who knows..i say stay....jason is very close and if we can have a season or two with some health on our side then skys the limit with all the coaches returning.

continuity is key for this team..
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:03 AM   #71
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

I don't think the problems we've been having are a direct link to Al. If we could say "This is his fault", then I'm ready to see him get launched. But for the most part the plays have worked, but the players have failed to execute them.
I say keep him around for another season, and give him total control.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:16 AM   #72
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

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I think the only pt i differ is how to keep the same staff - I'd like to see Gibbs take a different role in the organization and one of the two head coordinators take over as HC.

I believe the natural order the Redskins should follow is this: Continue having an offensive and defensive coordinator who's #1 duty is to call the plays in the game. Continue having one head coach who oversees and manages the whole thing. If this isn't already happening with Gibbs, it should be. While either Saunders or Williams is at least calling 80% of the plays, they should just remain as coordinators until:
a.) the offense and defense are both perfected and running like well oiled machines
b.) the next guy in line is starting to call 50% or more of the plays.

It's a natural progression that keeps continuity while eventually promoting guys into situations where they can be most successful. Since our offense is continuing to evolve and hasn't gotten up to the point where it should be at just yet with Campbell, you need Saunders in there being the guy running the offense. Gregg Williams might be closer to giving Greg Blanche more control of the offense than Al Saunders giving Don Breaux or Jack Burns control. But, until that point, I believe things should remain the same for now. Gibbs as Head Coach, Saunders and Williams as coordinators.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:37 AM   #73
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Re: Should Al Saunders return in '08?

I think that Todd Collin's recent success is a tribute to Al Saunders. A timing critical offense works best with a vet behind the helm. I don't want to put the weight of our offensive ineptitude on Jason, but i think it's very telling how much more dynamic and effective our offense has become in the last 2.5 games.

Our offense is built on timing and accuracy, not arm strength and youth. Hopefully Jason gets the opportunity to develop his small ball skills in a great system. Keep Al.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:39 AM   #74
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I think it's obvious now that Al's system was not the problem. The problem was we didn't have a QB that could fully execute his offense. Campbell will get there, but right now Collins is playing lights out and showing that this offense is a dangerous one.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:02 AM   #75
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I think it's obvious now that Al's system was not the problem. The problem was we didn't have a QB that could fully execute his offense. Campbell will get there, but right now Collins is playing lights out and showing that this offense is a dangerous one.
Matty, I agree w/the 1st statement, but I think a couple things should be pointed out about Collins' performance v. JC:

1) Collins has had better pass pro. Certainly in the Bears game, there was a lot of max protect plays & since then we see 2 backs in to block, usually the FB helps Heyer. JC was left back there alone a lot more, though in the TB game (in which Heyer started - his first I believe) we saw this a good bit too.
2) Heyer's coming along rapidly it seems. Having started the last several games he is getting much better. The o line as a unit is really looking good & his improvement might be the difference as the right side has been weak all season.
3) Moss & Portis. Both are healthy & are playing their best. Moss td last week was clearly all him, could've just as easily have been picked.
4) Inspiration, whatever its come from the team is playing inspired in all phases.

Collins certainly deserves credit, I just think the other components of the O have improved greatly as well.
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