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Old 12-24-2007, 01:45 PM   #16
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JC is not a turnover machine. He's played somewhat like a qb who's in his first full year of starting. This is not Patrick Ramsey we're talking about. That said, I think that the combination of him learning more and more of the playbook and seeing TC run the offense well will help him understand how to play.
Agreed.

I think JC gave us exactly what we should have expected from a first year starter.

He's right on the edge, I think next year we'll start to see that breakthrough.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:38 PM   #17
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I liked the fire in Gibbs' eyes last night. The play calling was spot on the first half and adequate in the second half. This team is on the verge of something special this season, but it still has some unfinished buisness to attend to this Sunday. THIS TEAM NEEDS OUR SUPPORT AT FEDEX LIKE NO TEAM HAS YET TO SEE!!! So, 12th man where you at?!? Is this fun or what? Good job Skins, why to make us proud!
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Old 12-24-2007, 03:03 PM   #18
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Yeah...#21 has had a profound effect on all of us....I can only imagine the effect he's had on his teammates and coaches....Its no doubt they are all playing inspired football!

The difference between the two offenses is so stark that its hard for me believe that theres not more to it, then just injuries,inexperience and QB grooming. We are better across the board on offense not just the players. The timing of the calls, the challenges, game speed and overall coaching. The whole ball of wax is improved! Maybe Gibbs plan has been to lull our opponents to sleep. LOL!!!! I dont know what it is and I guess we could sit here and make assumptions all day, whatever it is. Im thrilled!!! If Collins is even partly responsible for this turn around, we have no business even talking about Cambell until next trainning camp!!! Im a huge Cambell fan but at this point Ill take the wins over playing time for our FUTURE star.
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:52 PM   #19
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Agreed.

I think JC gave us exactly what we should have expected from a first year starter.

He's right on the edge, I think next year we'll start to see that breakthrough.
Let's say Collins takes us to the playoffs, we win a game or two and he performs very well. I'm speculating but what the hell.
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:46 AM   #20
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JC is not a turnover machine. He's played somewhat like a qb who's in his first full year of starting. This is not Patrick Ramsey we're talking about. That said, I think that the combination of him learning more and more of the playbook and seeing TC run the offense well will help him understand how to play.
First year starting QB or not, he's responsible for 19 turnovers (11 picks, 8 fumbles lost) in 417 passing attempts. That's about a turnover every 22 passes.

Inexperienced or not, he's turning the ball over too much. And there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that there's no three game winning streak with him at quarterback.
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First year starting QB or not, he's responsible for 19 turnovers (11 picks, 8 fumbles lost) in 417 passing attempts. That's about a turnover every 22 passes.

Inexperienced or not, he's turning the ball over too much. And there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that there's no three game winning streak with him at quarterback.
Like I said in a previous thread the o-line is not allowing defenses to pressure TC at all. I still can't single out one week that Campbell has had protection like TC has the last three weeks.
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:58 AM   #22
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I said it when Collins first came in the game, and did pretty decent. We are seeing the future of Redskins football. Jason will get there, and I don't think he's bummed that Collins is doing well right now. He just needs to be close with him, and learn.
I think this thread is really funny, because not too long ago there were several "let's get rid of Gibbs" threads going around. "Gibbs is done, We need Cowler". Gibbs is the Coach for this team, has been the Coach with this team, and will continue to be the coach for this team as long as his health lets him.
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For most of this year Joe Gibbs has been under intense scrutiny by the media and Redskins fans alike. Going into the Minnesota game, I just had the impression that Joe Gibbs was going to outcoach Ray Childress and company. Not to harp on the 12 man challenge too much, but I think that's a call we miss, say, just three months ago. To me, it's an indicator of how much the entire staff are now of like mind and are seeing and speaking the same thing.
Is that Brad Childress' twin brother?
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:07 PM   #24
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Is that Brad Childress' twin brother?
hahaha...you know what, it hadn't dawned upon me until just yesterday when I was watching NFL Network or something, and it said Brad Childress....I was like, snap, I had the wrong guy! Who cares, the Vikes are in our rear view mirror.
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Old 12-27-2007, 06:38 PM   #25
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Like I said in a previous thread the o-line is not allowing defenses to pressure TC at all. I still can't single out one week that Campbell has had protection like TC has the last three weeks.
I'm not sure I agree with that. The problem for the O-line, up until the last game or two, has been run blocking. Pass protection has generally been good this year. And the fumbling problem has nothing to do with the offensive line. The coaches would agree that regardless of QB pressure, Jason has to protect the ball way better than he has.

Now, don't misunderstand ... I'm not trying to turn this into a bash Campbell routine. Clearly, he's the future of this franchise at quarterback -- not Todd Collins. In fact, Collins just might have more suitors around the league thanks to his recent performances. I think it just shows that Jason still has a long way to go.
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Joe getting his mojo back?!? He never lost it!

This is the reason Joe likes veterans for quarterbacks. They need to be experienced and "real smart". They have to have the ability to slow the game down and not get themselves to pressured to make a mistake.

Honestly, I think this is JC glaring flaw since the 3rd week of the season. He as inablility to keep a level head when the pressure mounts. It doesnt help he puts additional pressure on himself in the latter part of the game, to win it. He starts to hang on to the ball to long or puts himself in a situation he cant handle (passes a ball across his body to a receiver going the opposite direction and very well covered, when he could have ran it for a first down. UGH!). Think that was the Buc or Bill game.

Btw, if Brunell was in and the fumbling/Int was like this he would have been benched along time ago. Everyones giving JC the benefit of the doubt because hes a promising rookie. Well enough already, its playoff time and we need to focus on winning. We can toss JC the start position next year. Keep TC in till we lose or go all the way.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:39 AM   #27
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I liked the fire in Gibbs' eyes last night. The play calling was spot on the first half and adequate in the second half. This team is on the verge of something special this season, but it still has some unfinished buisness to attend to this Sunday. THIS TEAM NEEDS OUR SUPPORT AT FEDEX LIKE NO TEAM HAS YET TO SEE!!! So, 12th man where you at?!? Is this fun or what? Good job Skins, why to make us proud!
Great point about the "fuego" in Gibbs' eyes. He has lacked that during his second stint, but had it (a lot of it) in his first stint. Aging is an insufficient reason for the lack of fire.

Just look at one of the Torresa videos (82 SB run) from the Warpath film room and you can see what I mean about the look in his eye.

Recently, there have been occasions where you can see glimpses of that - Minnesota game, when Landry picked up the dumb 15yarder on the Burress hit, etc.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:52 AM   #28
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I've never understood people saying that he's lost his fire for coaching.

He didn't need to come back and put his legacy on the line for the Redskins. He was doing quite well in NASCAR, and he has a bust in Canton. He didn't come back for a paycheck, that's for damn sure.

I believe he will sign a 2 year extension after this season and he will continue working his ass off trying to get this ship back on course.

There are 3 things that should never be questioned with Joe Gibbs. His faith, his work ethic, and his leadership abilities.
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:46 AM   #29
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Pretty good article from none other than Wilbon, they even mention drinking kool aid. washingtonpost.com
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Pretty good article from none other than Wilbon, they even mention drinking kool aid. washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines
That Wilbon column is great.

Joe definitely strives during adversity and with that calm attitude of his, he keeps the players focused.
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