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Old 12-29-2007, 12:20 PM   #31
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

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This team has had to deal with an adversity that no other team has. In doing so, they got better, both on and off the stat sheet. If we lose tomorrow, I would hope that is the lesson we take from the season - not a failure to make the playoffs.
Agreed!

But, Having the cowboys knock us out of the playoffs would hurt more than not making it in general.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:21 PM   #32
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

LOL I'm being negative... I'm sure a lot of people here would get a kick outta that.

Gibbsmeatitle#1, this is a discussion board, this is what we do here. Nothing is off limit.

If you don't want to talk about the chances of dealing with a loss, fine. But I think it's a perfectly legit thing to discuss and there's no negativity behind my original post. Just reality.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:24 PM   #33
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

What is the point of this post? If we don't beat the Cowboys backups I will be very disappointed in the team.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:25 PM   #34
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Thread i mean
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

Forget it.

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Old 12-29-2007, 12:42 PM   #36
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Nice thread. As a doubter, I'd say if we lost and don't make it to the playoffs, my expectations for the season would've been vindicated. While it would be disappointing to not make the playoffs in 3 of Gibbs 4 seasons back with us, the adversity that this team had to face with all the injuries to starters and the death of its best player is a reasonable excuse.

I can't doubt Gibbs' contribution, which I failed to see until the last quarter of this season - he's a master motivator and has done an unbelievable job getting these guys fired up to play given we were left for dead at 5-7. That said, I still think his game management is questionable and isn't a source of advantage for us. With his experience, it should be a huge advantage for us.

Has been a positive season relative to last year - the development of Campbell, solid back up (short term starter) in Collins, Landry, improved and deep Linebacking corps, Heyer, Kendall and the depth we have built at O&D lines, Cooley established as one of the league's best tight ends, etc.

The expectation for this team next season can't be anything short of the second round of the playoffs, perhaps even the NFC Championship game. No more excuses for Campbell turning the ball over and failing to make game winning plays, no more excuses for injuries on the O&D lines, and no more in-game mismanagement.
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Old 12-29-2007, 12:52 PM   #37
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

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LOL I'm being negative... I'm sure a lot of people here would get a kick outta that.

Gibbsmeatitle#1, this is a discussion board, this is what we do here. Nothing is off limit.

If you don't want to talk about the chances of dealing with a loss, fine. But I think it's a perfectly legit thing to discuss and there's no negativity behind my original post. Just reality.
Don't get me wrong. I by no means meant to cut off discussion (other than my own). As a matter of fact, I think I stimulated some as evidenced by our tit-for-tat. My point is sort of Sun Tzuish (dead guy reference number one) in that if you know yourself, know your adversary and prepare accordingly, you will win. By making the necessary preparations, and assuming you can perform at a certain level to begin with, you are eliminating defeat from the equation. Of course you've got fog and friction (von Clausewitz - dead guy reference number two), and a thinking opponent to deal with, but those are things you can't control; so why worry? You are not denying that defeat is a possibilty, you are simply not wasting time thinking about something that is irrelevant and distracts from your performance. That was my point for this game. If others feel as you do, more power to you. I just approach things from a different angle.

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Old 12-29-2007, 02:59 PM   #38
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I know we probably don't even want to talk about this... but let's throw it out on the table anyway.

What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

Given everything that's happened this year with all the injuries and the Sean Taylor tragedy, will you be on the forgiving side of things or will you be furious and we're back to "Joe must go" threads all offseason?
dude what if i get hit by a bus tommorow crossing the street. we cant think this way matty.look it wont be a cake walk but we will win tommorow beat seattle in the wildcard.now if we can win in greenbay at below temp..thats a whole nother thread
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

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Don't get me wrong. I by no means meant to cut off discussion (other than my own). As a matter of fact, I think I stimulated some as evidenced by our tit-for-tat. My point is sort of Sun Tzuish (dead guy reference number one) in that if you know yourself, know your adversary and prepare accordingly, you will win. By making the necessary preparations, and assuming you can perform at a certain level to begin with, you are eliminating defeat from the equation. Of course you've got fog and friction (von Clausewitz - dead guy reference number two), and a thinking opponent to deal with, but those are things you can't control; so why worry? You are not denying that defeat is a possibilty, you are simply not wasting time thinking about something that is irrelevant and distracts from your performance. That was my point for this game. If others feel as you do, more power to you. I just approach things from a different angle.

Nuff said,

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Re: the bolded part, again, that approach makes sense for the players and coaches. Clinton Portis, is that you? Or maybe you're Joe Bugel?

Sun Tzu was someone teaching people how to fight a war and win. He was speaking to the people doing the fighting. He wasn't speaking to the civilians who stand by and watch the wars.

Dude, you're a fan. Whether or not you consider the possibility of losing has NO BEARING on the team's level of focus. They will surely not consider defeat an option. But you can, and trust me, it won't affect how they play. Whatever you do, or whatever we discuss here on the Warpath, it won't distract from the team's performance.

Put down the books and come back to reality.
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:42 PM   #40
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Re: the bolded part, again, that approach makes sense for the players and coaches. Clinton Portis, is that you? Or maybe you're Joe Bugel?

Sun Tzu was someone teaching people how to fight a war and win. He was speaking to the people doing the fighting. He wasn't speaking to the civilians who stand by and watch the wars.

Dude, you're a fan. Whether or not you consider the possibility of losing has NO BEARING on the team's level of focus. They will surely not consider defeat an option. But you can, and trust me, it won't affect how they play. Whatever you do, or whatever we discuss here on the Warpath, it won't distract from the team's performance.

Put down the books and come back to reality.
A couple things for you my friend. Sun Tzu and whole bunch of other philosophers weren't just talking to the soldiers who fight wars. They were talking about philosophies of life. I'm just applying one aspect to this game. It sounds like you need to pick up some books and give them more than a cursory/superficial look. Up until this point this thread has been respectful, but please don't tell me how or what I should think.

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Old 12-29-2007, 07:22 PM   #41
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

We pray the bears beat the saints and the Vikings lost to the broncos
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:25 PM   #42
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

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A couple things for you my friend. Sun Tzu and whole bunch of other philosophers weren't just talking to the soldiers who fight wars. They were talking about philosophies of life. I'm just applying one aspect to this game. It sounds like you need to pick up some books and give them more than a cursory/superficial look. Up until this point this thread has been respectful, but please don't tell me how or what I should think.

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Perhaps you should heed your own advice, given that you told Matty he shouldn't even be thinking about or discussing the possibility of losing.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:54 PM   #43
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Lady Brave,

Please go back and reread all my posts. I never tell Matty what or how to think. I would not presume to do so. I do express, somewhat through humor, my differing philosophy/perspective. If you read my posts as otherwise, then so be it.

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Old 12-29-2007, 11:31 PM   #44
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A couple things for you my friend. Sun Tzu and whole bunch of other philosophers weren't just talking to the soldiers who fight wars. They were talking about philosophies of life. I'm just applying one aspect to this game. It sounds like you need to pick up some books and give them more than a cursory/superficial look. Up until this point this thread has been respectful, but please don't tell me how or what I should think.

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It's nice that you're applying it to the game, but perhaps you can explain why you're applying it to yourself as a fan of the team?
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:21 AM   #45
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Re: What if we lose to Dallas and don't make the playoffs?

Schneed10,

It's called free choice. As a fan, player, or someone who doesn't even care about the Skins, you can choose to believe whatever you want. I choose to believe that we will win this game and I choose not to focus on any negative thoughts (negative thoughts = title of this thread). That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. You can agree or disagree. One more thing... just because I have a different idea on things doesn't mean I'm out to invalidate the thread. Sometimes ideas have to be challenged. I certainly don't mind mine being challenged so long as the discourse is respectful. Now let's go knock them Cowterds back to their toilet bowl of a stadium.

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