Time To Take A Que From The Best

MTRedskinsFan · 01-05-2008, 08:44 PM

Looking at how poorly key players performed not only today but throughout the season, it is now beyond obvious we need to take a que from the best team/best coach in the league: the NE Patriots/Bill Belichick.

The Pats cleaned house on all their receivers from last year and went out to get high quality guys (unfortunately, we got some of the leavings in Caldwell who dropped a pass today). But the drops, all year long, and the extraordinary mental errors from Moss have been appalling. This is not to mention the complete bust of B. Lloyd. It is time to retire the WR corps and bring in new guys.

This is aside from bringing in new talent on the o-line, which probably remains the top priority, but I think after today the extreme weakness in the WR group cannot be ignored.

However... looking at the bigger picture this season was an enormous improvement over '06. We have a very long way to go but the defense looks pretty solid going forward, which gives coaches/front office the opportunity to go out and build an offense.

wilsowilso · 01-05-2008, 08:46 PM

Hey MT give it a rest.

Smooter · 01-05-2008, 08:47 PM

Yeah I still think we need a tall receiver but I cant see us getting rid of Moss or Randle El nor would I want to.

irish · 01-05-2008, 08:51 PM

I totally agree, the WRs were terrible today with so many drops and through the hand I lost track. Moss quitting on that INT is just unacceptable.

chrisl4064 · 01-05-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Looking at how poorly key players performed not only today but throughout the season, it is now beyond obvious we need to take a que from the best team/best coach in the league: the NE Patriots/Bill Belichick.

The Pats cleaned house on all their receivers from last year and went out to get high quality guys (unfortunately, we got some of the leavings in Caldwell who dropped a pass today). But the drops, all year long, and the extraordinary mental errors from Moss have been appalling. This is not to mention the complete bust of B. Lloyd. It is time to retire the WR corps and bring in new guys.

This is aside from bringing in new talent on the o-line, which probably remains the top priority, but I think after today the extreme weakness in the WR group cannot be ignored.

However... looking at the bigger picture this season was an enormous improvement over '06. We have a very long way to go but the defense looks pretty solid going forward, which gives coaches/front office the opportunity to go out a build an offense.

well good thing for you your team doesnt play until next week huh?

FRPLG · 01-05-2008, 08:53 PM

We lost this game because we couldn't protect the QB. Plain and simple. Everything else is minutae. Go ahead and focus on stuff that didn't matter much. You and the rest of the know nothings surely will. The rest of us who can objectively judge what went wrong today know the truth. Our WRs weren't even close to a reason we lost the game.

SmootSmack · 01-05-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Hey MT give it a rest.

Thank you

DynamiteRave · 01-05-2008, 08:57 PM

The WRs were bad today but we need to keep Moss, ARE and Mix at least. Maybe Thrash cause he was pretty dependable as well. I like McCardell but he's so damn old he'll probably retire anyway. I could careless about what happens to the rest of them. Big name acquisitions doesn't mean that they'll be good. (Brandon Lloyd?)

MTRedskinsFan · 01-05-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Smooter

Yeah I still think we need a tall receiver but I cant see us getting rid of Moss or Randle El nor would I want to.

I can see keeping El around, he has proven more reliable than Moss, but I'm not sure if he is a 1st or 2nd receiver. As far as Moss, it's just too hard to predict when he's going to come through, not just game to game but play to play. I loved the guy for what he's done against Dallas but man, too much of the time he looks out of it. We need somebody super reliable out there, and I agree w/ Smooter it should be someone tall and strong... what's the future look like for Mix? That guy is a frame.

jdlea · 01-05-2008, 09:03 PM

See, I have mixed thoughts. I think that Santana is the most overrated player on the team and I was appalled by his effort on the pick...you can't quit on a route the way he did. However, you have to keep the guy around, he's got great heart and can be a good football player. I think they need to get a legit #1 receiver and move him to 2 and put ARE in the slot. That's about the only way I can see the passing attack getting better next season.

MTRedskinsFan · 01-05-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

We lost this game because we couldn't protect the QB. Plain and simple. Everything else is minutae. Go ahead and focus on stuff that didn't matter much. You and the rest of the know nothings surely will. The rest of us who can objectively judge what went wrong today know the truth. Our WRs weren't even close to a reason we lost the game.

I don't think u read the thread to begin with. I said o-line probably needs to be primary focus (that's so obvious my wife started pointing it out 2 or 3 minutes into the game) but clearly the WR corps needs work. Just not enough reliability and production out there. Fact is, dropped passes are detrimental, maybe not as much as a sack on the QB, but still detrimental. We had too many this season and way to many for a playoff game.

Big C · 01-05-2008, 09:06 PM

moss had a pretty big td catch today, but him quitting on the int was unacceptable

MTRedskinsFan · 01-05-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

See, I have mixed thoughts. I think that Santana is the most overrated player on the team and I was appalled by his effort on the pick...you can't quit on a route the way he did. However, you have to keep the guy around, he's got great heart and can be a good football player. I think they need to get a legit #1 receiver and move him to 2 and put ARE in the slot. That's about the only way I can see the passing attack getting better next season.

I like that idea, but do u think Moss becomes more or less reliable as the 2nd option? I kind of feel he has to see a lot of passes to get in a rhythm. It's like he's got to drop a few here and there to get going.

jdlea · 01-05-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

I like that idea, but do u think Moss becomes more or less reliable as the 2nd option? I kind of feel he has to see a lot of passes to get in a rhythm. It's like he's got to drop a few here and there to get going.

If he needs to get drops out of his system in order to "get in rhythm," he doesn't belong on the field. I think he just never really hit his stride this year. I mean, everyone is going to drop balls, and Santana can make a lot of spectacular catches, but I've lost a lot of faith in him this year. Was he inconsistent this year because he had to play with a new QB and then switch QBs in the last few games? Maybe so, but I don't think that's an excuse. I don't know if it's a lapse in focus or anything like that, he just has to do a better job of hauling the ball in. Period.

SFREDSKIN · 01-05-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

We lost this game because we couldn't protect the QB. Plain and simple. Everything else is minutae. Go ahead and focus on stuff that didn't matter much. You and the rest of the know nothings surely will. The rest of us who can objectively judge what went wrong today know the truth. Our WRs weren't even close to a reason we lost the game.

Exactly!! Our injuries on the right side of the OL where big today. Heyer is young and very promising rookie, Kerney is a veteran physical pro bowler. What we do need are a DE, CB, OG and WR. We should be able to address this thru the draft and FA and comeback next year and kick everyone's ass!!!

01-05-2008, 08:44 PM	#1 (permalink)
MTRedskinsFan Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 359	Time To Take A Que From The Best Looking at how poorly key players performed not only today but throughout the season, it is now beyond obvious we need to take a que from the best team/best coach in the league: the NE Patriots/Bill Belichick. The Pats cleaned house on all their receivers from last year and went out to get high quality guys (unfortunately, we got some of the leavings in Caldwell who dropped a pass today). But the drops, all year long, and the extraordinary mental errors from Moss have been appalling. This is not to mention the complete bust of B. Lloyd. It is time to retire the WR corps and bring in new guys. This is aside from bringing in new talent on the o-line, which probably remains the top priority, but I think after today the extreme weakness in the WR group cannot be ignored. However... looking at the bigger picture this season was an enormous improvement over '06. We have a very long way to go but the defense looks pretty solid going forward, which gives coaches/front office the opportunity to go out and build an offense.

01-05-2008, 08:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
wilsowilso The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,571	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best Hey MT give it a rest.

01-05-2008, 08:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
Smooter Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 679	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best Yeah I still think we need a tall receiver but I cant see us getting rid of Moss or Randle El nor would I want to. __________________ Do I make you Zorny baby? Do I?.

01-05-2008, 08:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
irish The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,813	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best I totally agree, the WRs were terrible today with so many drops and through the hand I lost track. Moss quitting on that INT is just unacceptable.

01-05-2008, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
FRPLG Somehow, not a mod Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,492	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best We lost this game because we couldn't protect the QB. Plain and simple. Everything else is minutae. Go ahead and focus on stuff that didn't matter much. You and the rest of the know nothings surely will. The rest of us who can objectively judge what went wrong today know the truth. Our WRs weren't even close to a reason we lost the game. __________________ Let's roll.

01-05-2008, 08:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
DynamiteRave Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts: 2,950	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best The WRs were bad today but we need to keep Moss, ARE and Mix at least. Maybe Thrash cause he was pretty dependable as well. I like McCardell but he's so damn old he'll probably retire anyway. I could careless about what happens to the rest of them. Big name acquisitions doesn't mean that they'll be good. (Brandon Lloyd?) __________________ Relax your mind. Lay back and groove with mine. You gotta feel that heat and we can ride the boogie. Share that beat of love... I know all the words to "De Colores" And I'm proud to be an American.

01-05-2008, 09:03 PM	#10 (permalink)
jdlea Cereal Killer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,443	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best See, I have mixed thoughts. I think that Santana is the most overrated player on the team and I was appalled by his effort on the pick...you can't quit on a route the way he did. However, you have to keep the guy around, he's got great heart and can be a good football player. I think they need to get a legit #1 receiver and move him to 2 and put ARE in the slot. That's about the only way I can see the passing attack getting better next season. __________________ Portis Advocate

01-05-2008, 09:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Virginia Tech Posts: 3,500	Re: Time To Take A Que From The Best moss had a pretty big td catch today, but him quitting on the int was unacceptable __________________ VT

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