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Old 01-11-2008, 12:24 PM   #31
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I think you may be reaching a bit here.

If he already knows what he has in-house, and by now I'm sure there have been some in-house discussions with Williams, I don't think the fact he's out there interviewing other coaches should be misconstrued has him not being patient.
I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:34 PM   #32
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My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:42 PM   #33
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Re: Do you trust Snyder?

The fact that he interviewed a no-name like Schwartz tells me that Snyder's not necessarily going for the biggest name guys anymore. Perhaps he's trying to unearth the next Joe Gibbs, who was also largely anonymous when he came here the first time at a similar age to Schwartz.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:45 PM   #34
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I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?
He interviewed one coach and now he is back to his old ways. No one has a clue what going on so why not wait until after the decision is made and hear why they were made before we jump to conclusions about what he is doing.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:49 PM   #35
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My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.
So what now hiring a head coach is a popolarity contest. If you polled my employees if they would like friday's off they would vote 100% yes. If I don't give them Friday off are they going to quite or revolt? NO. He is still the owner and they are the employees and if they did revolt then maybe they are not of the carater as we thought of them after the season. If Gibbs did not want GW to replace him will you still feel the same way?
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:58 PM   #36
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To answer the original question posed by this thread: Not by a long shot. I'm optimistic. I HOPE he's going to make good decisions. But I will not believe it until I see it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:17 PM   #37
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He is the freaking owner of the team and I have never heard of an owner turning over hiring of his head coach to someone else. so Thats crazy to think doing the right thing is letting someone else hire your coach. Yes I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh role in thid decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say.
"I have never heard of an owner turning over the firing of this head coach to someone else."
"I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh[sic} role in thid[sic] decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say."

What on earch did you think I was suggesting? Of course Snyder will have the final say, but I would only have faith in his making the right decision if he discusses it with other people in the FO.

Essentially by saying that you want Gibbs to have a "hugh" role in the decision, you are supporting my original point. Thanks.
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"I have never heard of an owner turning over the firing of this head coach to someone else."
"I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh[sic} role in thid[sic] decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say."

What on earch did you think I was suggesting? Of course Snyder will have the final say, but I would only have faith in his making the right decision if he discusses it with other people in the FO.

Essentially by saying that you want Gibbs to have a "hugh" role in the decision, you are supporting my original point. Thanks.
Ok, I must of misunderstood what you said.
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Old 01-11-2008, 01:33 PM   #39
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It is not a matter of trust, it is a matter of football knowledge and ability.
Dan Snyder like Jack Kent Cooke is an incredible businessman. However Mr. Cooke did not have the ego that Mr. Snyder has to believe he has the experience and skills to make all of the major football operation decisions. Mr. Cooke hired professionals, let them do their jobs and held them accountable. Mr. Cooke won three super bowls.
Mr. Snyder on the other hand has won one playoff game in eight years?

I really think Mr. Snyder saw Jerry Jones of the Cowboys and thought he could do what Jerry Jones is doing. The problems is Jerry Jones had a huge football background before he took charge of the Cowboys. Jones was a star running back at North Little Rock High School and eventually received a scholarship to play guard at the University of Arkansas. Among his Arkansas teammates were Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, both of whom he would later hire to coach the Cowboys.
Snyder on the other hand does not have any football background other than watching the Redskins on TV. He did not even play football in high school.
What makes him think he can run football operations for a billion dollar team?
Mr. Snyder, let a professional make you look good, you are in over your head.
You are competing against football professionals. You are not a football professional.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:04 PM   #40
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Wow Defensewins, the NFL game and high school/college (especially when Jerry Jones played college) are soo different. Having played football as a youth gives Jones no advantage over Snyder as a "football man" other than being a more athletic youngster. Is that really an advantage for an owner or General Manager?

I think people who already have their negative opinions of Snyder set in stone are trying to rationalize to themselves why the Redskins can't be successful with him.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:06 PM   #41
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If "do the right thing" = "maximize team revenues and profits", then absolutely Danny Boy will do the right thing.


If "do the right thing" = "make the single best football decision for the team", then Danny Boy is not likely to do the right thing. HOWEVER, even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while...


If "do the right thing" = "hiring a coach with sufficient 'celeb value' such that Danny Boy gets more than 2 minutes of face time on TV", you can count on him doing the right thing.


Let me pose an ancillary question here:

What makes Redskins' fans think that Danny Boy gives a fig about what they think or what they wish for the team? During the winding path of his goofy moves over the past eight or nine years, how often have the fans rebuked him in any meaningful way?

Redskins' fans have taught Danny Boy that he can ignore them and he can even do precisely what they don't want him to do - - and they'll be back spending their money on his product without abatement.

There are only two things valuable to Danny Boy. One is his wealth and the business empire he controls. Two is his ego. Unless Redskin fans rebuke one of those two things when Danny Boy does something they don't like, he will continue to patronize them some of the time and ignore them most of the time.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:12 PM   #42
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Jack Kent Cooke had no ego? You're kidding right? JKC had a huge ego.

Furthermore,

WashingtonPost.com: Gibbs Hired as Redskins Coach After Meeting With Cooke

"Cooke wants to make the Redskin games "fun for the fans" and he wants to see more passing and more progressive thinking on offense. Cooke was very impressed with the Chargers this season, especially because they were entertaining even when they lost."

If Snyder had chimed in like that in this day and age, whether he's right or not, there'd be people with torches ready to burn his house down.
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Old 01-11-2008, 02:15 PM   #43
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Wow Defensewins, the NFL game and high school/college (especially when Jerry Jones played college) are soo different. Having played football as a youth gives Jones no advantage over Snyder as a "football man" other than being a more athletic youngster. Is that really an advantage for an owner or General Manager?

I think people who already have their negative opinions of Snyder set in stone are trying to rationalize to themselves why the Redskins can't be successful with him.
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Wow Defensewins, the NFL game and high school/college (especially when Jerry Jones played college) are soo different. Having played football as a youth gives Jones no advantage over Snyder as a "football man" other than being a more athletic youngster. Is that really an advantage for an owner or General Manager?

I think people who already have their negative opinions of Snyder set in stone are trying to rationalize to themselves why the Redskins can't be successful with him.
It is called experience. You are going to say a guy that played in and was part of a major college program has NO advantage over a guy that never was around any organized football team? Jones saw first hand how a successful major college program is run. He saw this from the inside. You are saying he did not learn anything from this experience?
I have no set in stone opinions of Snyder other than the track record Snyder has created for himself. Before Gibbs arrived Snyder did not do a good job of running the Redskins. Hey if Snyder begins to do a better job of being co-GM with Cerratto, I will be the first person to praise them and wish many more years of continuing success. Until then, all I have to go on is their history.
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He is the freaking owner of the team and I have never heard of an owner turning over hiring of his head coach to someone else. so Thats crazy to think doing the right thing is letting someone else hire your coach. Yes I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh role in thid decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say.
Here's an example for you: Wayne Huizenga, owner of the Miami Dolphins, has given Bill Parcells the responsibility of hiring the next Dolphins coach. Parcells has been named team president of the Dolphins, and he promptly fired coach Cam Cameron, and he will be hiring the Dolphins next coach. Parcells, I'm sure, will have to inform Wayne H. of his choice before the official announcement is made of Parcells' decision, but the decision on hiring and firing coaches is commonly left to general managers and/or team presidents.
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