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Old 02-01-2008, 02:16 PM   #16
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

What if we kept him locked in a cage and only let him out for practice and games.
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:42 PM   #17
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

So that I don't get accused of a double standard because I cautioned the idea of signing Chad Johnson, let me say first that everyone deserves a second chance. To me, potential problem players have to be evaluated on:

1) impact on team chemistry, e.g. TO has no legal issues, just a history of alienating teamates
2) impact of off field problems & likelihood of recurrence

Pacman's issues to my knowledge are in (2), but I've never heard of him being a 'bad teamate' when he's w/the team. He knows that he can't screw up again (not that that's stopped him before), so if there is any intelligence & discipline left in his small mind, he'll get it together.

I think it's worth it for the front office to interview him & if they think he's changed enough, offer him an extremely incentive laden contract & offer Tenn. an incentive laden trade deal w/a conditional futue pick. Something like, if he is on the roster at the end of the year, Tenn. gets a 4th or 5th rnd. pick. If not, they get a 7th rnd. pick or cash.
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Old 02-01-2008, 02:45 PM   #18
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If some of you think Chad Johnson is a problem Pacman the devil himself
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:07 PM   #19
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I'd rather play with John Jansen and Casey Rabach at corner. And I am not even remotely kidding. I'd sooner see Brandon Lloyd line up behind the center and run the freaking wing t option with Heath Shuler as the Tail back.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:23 PM   #20
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

Any news from PFT can wait.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:31 PM   #21
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So that I don't get accused of a double standard because I cautioned the idea of signing Chad Johnson, let me say first that everyone deserves a second chance. To me, potential problem players have to be evaluated on:

1) impact on team chemistry, e.g. TO has no legal issues, just a history of alienating teamates
2) impact of off field problems & likelihood of recurrence

Pacman's issues to my knowledge are in (2), but I've never heard of him being a 'bad teamate' when he's w/the team. He knows that he can't screw up again (not that that's stopped him before), so if there is any intelligence & discipline left in his small mind, he'll get it together.

I think it's worth it for the front office to interview him & if they think he's changed enough, offer him an extremely incentive laden contract & offer Tenn. an incentive laden trade deal w/a conditional futue pick. Something like, if he is on the roster at the end of the year, Tenn. gets a 4th or 5th rnd. pick. If not, they get a 7th rnd. pick or cash.
Didn't Pacman take a swing at a teammate for not "backing him up" when he was suspended?
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:33 PM   #22
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:45 PM   #23
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I don't think so.
I hate Jones but he is a top 5 cover cornerback and an elite punt returner.
Guys with that kind of talent will always get breaks.

I personally hope he is done with football, but He isn't because he can play at a high level.
That talent didn't help the Titans this last year and I don't think he'll behave any better if he plays with the Redskins. He's just a waste of talent....
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:47 PM   #24
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Everybody does deserve a second chance, but I'd much rather see Pacman get his opportunity [If he get's one] somewhere else. I would not like to see him in Burgandy & Gold.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:50 PM   #25
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DUMB question to even ask.
I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.
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Old 02-01-2008, 03:55 PM   #26
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I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.
Read the Jeremy Stevens article and I think you'll see why I agree with Matty. Besides pretty soon Pacmans trade value will be on par with Michael Vicks. At this point its only a matter of time.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:00 PM   #27
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Re: Someone has to bring it up....

no thanks..the video game pacman has been more impressive than pacman himself.
we don,t need a problem child here..
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Read the Jeremy Stevens article and I think you'll see why I agree with Matty. Besides pretty soon Pacmans trade value will be on par with Michael Vicks. At this point its only a matter of time.
But there's a big difference in the football skill of Pac Man Jones, and Jerramy Stevens. Even if Stevens was a choir boy, you can't really defend that he still deserves to be playing in the NFL. The fact that he's a terrible person just makes it downright insane that he has any support inside this league.

Pac Man may be a terrible person, but he's good at football. Jerramy Stevens is not.

Of course, a good counter argument would be that missing a year of football is a guarantee to severely retard ones development as a football player.
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I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.
His talent level is completely wiped out by his retarded actions off the field IMO.

I really hope the NFL doesn't reinstate him. He's a complete loser.
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Old 02-01-2008, 04:04 PM   #30
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Assuming the Titans are looking to deal him, I really hope we don't pick this guy up. We've had our share of head cases in the past but this guy would clearly take the cake. Your talking about moving this guy to a team located within an hour ride of The Block in Baltimore. That would be like putting Micheal Jackson in charge of a daycare center. Send him to the Raiders where he belongs.
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