I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked (sponsored by the player haters ball)

jsarno · 02-04-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hijinx

I don't in anyway think he sucked, however he did NOT deserve the MVP.

Yes he did. He managed that drive, and that should have some sort of label like Elway has "the drive". Maybe the drive part 2. I mean who you going to give it to? Tyree? He only had 3 catches for 43 yards and 1 td. While he did come up with that amazing, best play ever, catch, 2 plays don't deserve an MVP. I heard someone suggest the DLine...well that's fine and dandy, but it's most valuable PLAYER, not players.
Did Eli have a clear cut MVP game? No. But he was the most valuable player on that field today. He stayed away from mistakes (the int was not his fault)and had 2 critical TD's. He deserved it.

FRPLG · 02-04-2008, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

It kinda pissed me off that Manning got the MVP, I thought that he was the luckiest sob EVER for not losing that game. It seemed to me that on every throw he made in the 4th quarter, (except for one or two) he seemed to lean back, close his eyes throw the ball and pray that his reciever would catch it, and the overthow of Burress almost lost the game. I will give him props for fighting though, he got out of a few sacks where he should have been eating dirt. Even though I thought he should have thrown the ball away instead of scramble, I'm not going to complain about that point too much.

Well that stuff that you call lucky is what got Favre a bunch of MVPs and a ring. And everyone calls him one of the greats. As for the overthrow on PB is what Burress' "fault" for cutting short. In the end Eli threw the ball where he though PB would be and PB wasn't there.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 02-04-2008, 12:26 AM

Statistically he had a good night, even with the 1 INT that was not entirely his fault.

beau_str · 02-04-2008, 12:42 AM

I am not a fan of Eli but. got to give him props where props are due. the last drive was incredible. he deserves the MVP and all the credit. congrats giants fans, was worth seeing bellidick look so salty jogging of the field.

DynamiteRave · 02-04-2008, 12:44 AM

MVP shoulda been Tyree. That amazing helmet/hand catch was amazing!

(If I don't sound too totally coherent I've been drinking a bit tonight so uh yeah.

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beau_str · 02-04-2008, 12:48 AM

absolutely blows my mind how people can talk bad about his play after that showing. he led the giants to arguably the biggest upset in history. how can anyone hate on him after that last drive?

coggs · 02-04-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

It kinda pissed me off that Manning got the MVP, I thought that he was the luckiest sob EVER for not losing that game. It seemed to me that on every throw he made in the 4th quarter, (except for one or two) he seemed to lean back, close his eyes throw the ball and pray that his reciever would catch it, and the overthow of Burress almost lost the game. I will give him props for fighting though, he got out of a few sacks where he should have been eating dirt. Even though I thought he should have thrown the ball away instead of scramble, I'm not going to complain about that point too much.

AS IF ANY OF US GIVE A FLYING **** WHO WON THE MVP. WE ARE THE ****ING CHAMPS AND THE SIGNATURE STAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beau_str · 02-04-2008, 12:51 AM

personally, eli breaking tackles and throwing that pass at the end of the game to win it does it for me. no question, deserved. that is my opinion

DynamiteRave · 02-04-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by coggs

AS IF ANY OF US GIVE A FLYING **** WHO WON THE MVP. WE ARE THE ****ING CHAMPS AND THE SIGNATURE STAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

After winning a Super Bowl against the Pats, I wouldn't mind being kicked out of the NFL.

Your boys did great, Coggs!

SC Skins Fan · 02-04-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by coggs

AS IF ANY OF US GIVE A FLYING **** WHO WON THE MVP. WE ARE THE ****ING CHAMPS AND THE SIGNATURE STAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Relax dude, geez, clearly the guy is nuts. Eli played a hell of a game. The Tyree catch was a great play, but did you not notice Eli escaping from 3 guys right before he threw the ball? Give me a break, Eli won the game, classic performance. If you want to kill him when he plays bad (which I have) then give him some credit when he plays well (which he did). Eli deserved the MVP, he was the clear choice, and if you missed that I think you might have been paying more attention to the wings and beer instead of the game.

coggs · 02-04-2008, 12:56 AM

Honestly thought it was going to go to someone on the D-line. Not sure off the top of my head, but they had 5 sacks I think and Brady was on his ass A LOT.

beau_str · 02-04-2008, 12:58 AM

not to mention they would not have been in the SB if it were not for his long string of strong play through the playoffs. give credit where it is due. can't wait for next season.

SC Skins Fan · 02-04-2008, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by coggs

Honestly thought it was going to go to someone on the D-line. Not sure off the top of my head, but they had 5 sacks I think and Brady was on his ass A LOT.

Yeah, but when a QB leads a game winning drive with under 2 minutes left, its kind of hard to pick anyone else. The d-line did get to Brady a ton though. I bet he took more shots tonight than he did all year. Guess he's human when he doesn't get protection ... great gameplan, great execution.

FRPLG · 02-04-2008, 01:21 AM

And let's be honest, The Giants talent-wise are pretty thin offensively. Besides Burress they have:

2 mediocre to decent RBs with little to no value in the passing game
no discernibly good TEs with value besides blocking
1 average WR who caught the droppsies this year and scares exactly no one in the league
a bunch of no name fodder type WRs
a decent offensive line.

Not the makings of a great offense and any success had with this group can be attributed to Eli's play mostly.

mooby · 02-04-2008, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

It kinda pissed me off that Manning got the MVP, I thought that he was the luckiest sob EVER for not losing that game. It seemed to me that on every throw he made in the 4th quarter, (except for one or two) he seemed to lean back, close his eyes throw the ball and pray that his reciever would catch it, and the overthow of Burress almost lost the game. I will give him props for fighting though, he got out of a few sacks where he should have been eating dirt. Even though I thought he should have thrown the ball away instead of scramble, I'm not going to complain about that point too much.

I will disagree with you on this point, I thought Eli played a fine game and he was much more deserving of MVP than Peyton was in last year's Super Bowl. Eli has progressed a lot this postseason, and it showed. You could've counted me in on the believers that Eli didn't have it in him to take the Giants 83 yards down the field to score the winning touchdown against an undefeated team, but he did it, and that drive will be remembered as one of the crowning points of his career, unless of course, this becomes the first of many high points.

02-04-2008, 12:26 AM	#18
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 8,317	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked Statistically he had a good night, even with the 1 INT that was not entirely his fault.

02-04-2008, 12:42 AM	#19
beau_str Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 158	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked I am not a fan of Eli but. got to give him props where props are due. the last drive was incredible. he deserves the MVP and all the credit. congrats giants fans, was worth seeing bellidick look so salty jogging of the field.

02-04-2008, 12:44 AM	#20
DynamiteRave Franchise Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 26 Posts: 9,800	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked MVP shoulda been Tyree. That amazing helmet/hand catch was amazing! (If I don't sound too totally coherent I've been drinking a bit tonight so uh yeah. ) __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I'm a chick, damnit.

02-04-2008, 12:48 AM	#21
beau_str Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 158	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked absolutely blows my mind how people can talk bad about his play after that showing. he led the giants to arguably the biggest upset in history. how can anyone hate on him after that last drive?

02-04-2008, 12:51 AM	#23
beau_str Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 158	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked personally, eli breaking tackles and throwing that pass at the end of the game to win it does it for me. no question, deserved. that is my opinion

02-04-2008, 12:56 AM	#26
coggs Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: staten island Age: 37 Posts: 452	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked Honestly thought it was going to go to someone on the D-line. Not sure off the top of my head, but they had 5 sacks I think and Brady was on his ass A LOT. __________________ "Everyone is talking about their dynasty. Well, OUR DYNASTY STARTS TONIGHT."--Michael Strahan, pre-game huddle Pep talk, February 3rd, 2008.

02-04-2008, 12:58 AM	#27
beau_str Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 158	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked not to mention they would not have been in the SB if it were not for his long string of strong play through the playoffs. give credit where it is due. can't wait for next season.

02-04-2008, 01:21 AM	#29
FRPLG Franchise Player Join Date: May 2004 Age: 34 Posts: 9,232	Re: I hate to be the hater, but Eli sucked And let's be honest, The Giants talent-wise are pretty thin offensively. Besides Burress they have: 2 mediocre to decent RBs with little to no value in the passing game no discernibly good TEs with value besides blocking 1 average WR who caught the droppsies this year and scares exactly no one in the league a bunch of no name fodder type WRs a decent offensive line. Not the makings of a great offense and any success had with this group can be attributed to Eli's play mostly.

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