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Old 02-04-2008, 09:15 AM   #16
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

The term laughingstock gets thrown around way too much here.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:17 AM   #17
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the patriots are a laughingstock now. not even close to a dynasty.
Of course not, they haven't won for three years.

I never really considered them a dynasty. They won 3 SBs each by just a single FG, hardly dominant. Who'd they beat? The Eagles, Panthers and Rams...wow...really impressive. A team who is a dynasty doesn't rely on last-second FGs to win.

Pile on top of all of this the fact they've been found to have cheated, even on at least one SB...

Not a dynasty. Not even close.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:24 AM   #18
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

Hopefully this is the beginning of their death spiral. I'm waiting for the entire organization to unravel in a horrific fashion.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:34 AM   #19
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

They can always watch this gem all of-season.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:08 AM   #20
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Of course not, they haven't won for three years.

I never really considered them a dynasty. They won 3 SBs each by just a single FG, hardly dominant. Who'd they beat? The Eagles, Panthers and Rams...wow...really impressive. A team who is a dynasty doesn't rely on last-second FGs to win.

Pile on top of all of this the fact they've been found to have cheated, even on at least one SB...

Not a dynasty. Not even close.
First, they were as heavy an underdog against the Rams as the Giants were against the Patriots this year. That was an incredible win, and you can't take that away from them.

Second, the Eagles were good in 2004, remember? That wasn't a fluke SB team.

Third, I'll give you the Panthers - they sucked. But why should that count against the Pats? The AFC was nasty that year, and the Pats defense was silly. Is it their fault that the NFC sucked?

Fourth, the Pats' back-to-back years saw them go 14-2 each year. That's pretty dominant, even with their weak division.

Lastly, they haven't been found to have cheated on at least one SB. There are allegations, that's it. Allegations <> facts.

I don't like the Pats, but you have to give them credit for accomplishing something that wasn't supposed to be possible these days. I don't know if it's a dynasty or not, but "not even close"? That's just not supportable.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:13 AM   #21
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

I dont really care how they handle it. I was glad to see them lose the way they did. This was a longtime coming. The Pats linebackers showed their age last night. Congrats Giants....I took the points and went with the Giants and won big. So this further supports my theory that the NFC East is back!!!!!
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:30 AM   #22
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This loss is just the best thing that could have happened to that pompous team.

The giants(10-6) are getting the worst pick in the draft, the patroits are getting(would have got) the 31st pick the draft with the regular season record of 16-0....hahhhahhhhaa! That feels so good knowing they muffed the most important game of the season.
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:34 AM   #23
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This loss is just the best thing that could have happened to that pompous team.

The giants(10-6) are getting the worst pick in the draft, the patroits are getting(would have got) the 31st pick the draft with the regular season record of 16-0....hahhhahhhhaa! That feels so good knowing they muffed the most important game of the season.
Actually the Pats have the 7th pick in the draft via a trade with the 49ers. And they lost the 31st pick due to Spygate.

But other than that you are right...
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Old 02-04-2008, 10:45 AM   #24
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Listen, I hate Belichick and the Pats as much as the next guy and i am glad that they lost (esp b/c of the money that i won) but am i crazy or are we talking about the PATRIOTS? They were 3 points away from going 19-0! Even if they lose some of their vets on Defense, they are still gonna be a playoff team that contends for the SB for the next few years. To say that they are going to collapse b/c of this one loss is preposterous. The patriots more so than any other team in the league love having a chip on their shoulders. Also I think it would be a glaring omission to not point out their draft record and youth development. They know how to develop talent and although they are old at some positions, their younger guys have yet to reach their max potential (esp. Maroney).
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Brady's gonna go home and bang Gisele Bundchen so... it probably won't be that bad... In all honesty, they looked old at linebacker in this game. Bruschi getting trucked by Jacobs pretty much said it all. Experience is great but if every linebacker is too old to physically dominate, it shows. I'd say they make some significant personnel changes on d.
They still only gave up 17 points. Harrison is the one that looked old as he got beat a few times. But this WAS NOT on the defense. This was 100% on the offense and the O-line.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:34 AM   #26
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They still only gave up 17 points. Harrison is the one that looked old as he got beat a few times. But this WAS NOT on the defense. This was 100% on the offense and the O-line.
I don't think so. The Pats D couldn't get off the field. The offense can't do anything from the bench. It's not all about points allowed.
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

The Pats played bend but don't break all year on D. Last night it broke at the worst time.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:46 AM   #28
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

Remember the colts 13-3 season in 05, but they lost in the playoffs. They came back to win it all in 06 after an 11-5 season. Pitt. was 14-2 in 04, yet won the super bowl in 05 after an 11-5 wild card run. San Diego recently bounced back & won 2 playoff games after losing in the first round last year w/a 14-2 record.

Anyone notice a pattern here the last few years? It seems that teams w/the top records haven't fared that well in the playoffs, maybe the pressure & expectations are too high?

I see NE bouncing back & having another solid year, though there's no way we'll be talking about a perfect season. I could see them back in the super bowl.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:49 AM   #29
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Re: How will Patriots handle loss?

Did anyone else see Gisele drinking wine in the box seats? I know, it's luxury, but MAN that was lame.

Get her a freaking Budweiser.
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The Pats have quite a few aging vets on the defensive side. There could be some significant changes on that side of the ball.

That said I'm sure they will be a SB contender again next year and will probably win at least 12-13 games.
I was going to respond the same - that they will try to get younger on defense. They have a HUGE decision to make with one of their best young players - Asante Samuel is a free agent, and he might be looking to make Nate Clements money.
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