What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins?

skinsfan69 · 02-11-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Maybe Gus will come here. Wasn't he in Detroit when Zorn was the QB coach there?

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Gus is terrible.

GTripp0012 · 02-11-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Gus is terrible.

Pretty much.

Paintrain · 02-11-2008, 02:50 PM

I think Collins moves on.. He's a system QB, and a backup one at that. Yes he played great down the stretch for us, but I never thought of him as a 16 game starter. I think we bring in Trent Dilfer as a backup and draft a WCO QB in the late rounds. It probably would have been a good idea to keep Jordan Palmer on the practice squad, huh?

GTripp0012 · 02-11-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I think Collins moves on.. He's a system QB, and a backup one at that. Yes he played great down the stretch for us, but I never thought of him as a 16 game starter. I think we bring in Trent Dilfer as a backup and draft a WCO QB in the late rounds. It probably would have been a good idea to keep Jordan Palmer on the practice squad, huh?

Chad Henne or Joe Flacco would work out well here. We will need a veteran backup to sign. I'll come up with a list of potential names.

GTripp0012 · 02-11-2008, 02:56 PM

KFFL - 2008 NFL Free Agents

Grossman
Culpepper
Josh McCown
Quinn Gray
Ken Dorsey
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Cleo Lemon
Jared Lorenzen
Jamie Martin

umm...disgusting. I'd see if Brunell would play one more season at league minimum. Unless Culpepper would play for beans as opposed to retire?

Of course, there are some competant names on this list:

Billy Volek
Craig Nall

SmootSmack · 02-11-2008, 03:01 PM

I think Brunell is gone and it's over 50% chance that Collins stays. St. Louis is the only place that I can see truly making an offer for him. And from what I hear they might not be too active in free agency as they figure out their ownership situation. Of course, TC isn't likely to break the bank so he may be ok.

skinsfan69 · 02-11-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I think Collins moves on.. He's a system QB, and a backup one at that. Yes he played great down the stretch for us, but I never thought of him as a 16 game starter. I think we bring in Trent Dilfer as a backup and draft a WCO QB in the late rounds. It probably would have been a good idea to keep Jordan Palmer on the practice squad, huh?

IMO it is very important to try and have as little as possible of a drop off when the back-up has to play. When Ben R. gets hurt Batch comes in and plays just as good if not better. This year when JC went down Collins came in and played better and DID NOT turn the ball over. When Alex Smith got hurt Dilfer came in and started a few games. We all know Smith is not a very good NFL QB. I still can't figure out why SF took him with the #1 pick. But when Dilfer came in he played probably worse than Smith. I think I remember Gus coming in a throwing 5 ints and fumbling a game away. If I'm Redskins mgt I'm doing everything I can to keep Collins here.

70Chip · 02-11-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

KFFL - 2008 NFL Free Agents

Grossman
Culpepper
Josh McCown
Quinn Gray
Ken Dorsey
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Cleo Lemon
Jared Lorenzen
Jamie Martin

umm...disgusting. I'd see if Brunell would play one more season at league minimum. Unless Culpepper would play for beans as opposed to retire?

Of course, there are some competant names on this list:

Billy Volek
Craig Nall

Tim Rattay and Tim Hasselback in AZ are both FA. I like the fatass Lorenzen for the Freak-Show aspect he brings as well. He could take a bowling ball in the gut at halftime.

irish · 02-11-2008, 03:08 PM

I think there is a decent chance Collins stays. My prediction is that Campbell will not be the Skins starter at the end of the 2009 season.

SmootSmack · 02-11-2008, 03:10 PM

Would any of you take a chance on Chris Simms or try to lure Jake Plummer out of retirement?

I wouldn't, just wondering if anyone else would

skinzaholic73 · 02-11-2008, 03:13 PM

I think collins leaves,probably to st.louis.I would like to see either Gus F.,Billy Volek or Josh McCown.If there is any chance we can get Seneca Wallace from Seattle that would be sweet!

70Chip · 02-11-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Would any of you take a chance on Chris Simms or try to lure Jake Plummer out of retirement?

I wouldn't, just wondering if anyone else would

They both seem like they would piss and moan if they didn't get to be the starter. And with Simms, you'd have his old man pissing and moaning in harmony.

I believe Campbell is the guy. We need a backup that is willing to accept his fate. Sort of the way Mark Brunell was this last year.

irish · 02-11-2008, 03:15 PM

Why do the Skins never have talent they developed at key back-up positions like QB. Instead if Collins leaves they have to scrape around the bottom of the barrel for one of the most important positions on the team.

GTripp0012 · 02-11-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Would any of you take a chance on Chris Simms or try to lure Jake Plummer out of retirement?

I wouldn't, just wondering if anyone else would

There's really not a whole lot of reason to think Simms is capable of playing QB in the NFL. He was pretty mediocre in 2005, and hasn't been healthy since. I wouldn't go there.

Plummer is pretty awful too. I would rather try to re-sign Brunell, or spend 1 million a year on Billy Volek.

Mattyk · 02-11-2008, 03:17 PM

Our QB depth last year probably saved the season. So I wouldn't say we never have quality depth there.

02-11-2008, 02:50 PM	#18
Paintrain Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 42 Posts: 4,533	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? I think Collins moves on.. He's a system QB, and a backup one at that. Yes he played great down the stretch for us, but I never thought of him as a 16 game starter. I think we bring in Trent Dilfer as a backup and draft a WCO QB in the late rounds. It probably would have been a good idea to keep Jordan Palmer on the practice squad, huh? __________________ No Pressure-No Diamonds! Go Catch Your Dreams!

02-11-2008, 02:56 PM	#20
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,152	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? KFFL - 2008 NFL Free Agents Grossman Culpepper Josh McCown Quinn Gray Ken Dorsey Ryan Fitzpatrick Cleo Lemon Jared Lorenzen Jamie Martin umm...disgusting. I'd see if Brunell would play one more season at league minimum. Unless Culpepper would play for beans as opposed to retire? Of course, there are some competant names on this list: Billy Volek Craig Nall __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

02-11-2008, 03:01 PM	#21
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,218	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? I think Brunell is gone and it's over 50% chance that Collins stays. St. Louis is the only place that I can see truly making an offer for him. And from what I hear they might not be too active in free agency as they figure out their ownership situation. Of course, TC isn't likely to break the bank so he may be ok. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-11-2008, 03:08 PM	#24
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,331	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? I think there is a decent chance Collins stays. My prediction is that Campbell will not be the Skins starter at the end of the 2009 season.

02-11-2008, 03:10 PM	#25
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,218	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? Would any of you take a chance on Chris Simms or try to lure Jake Plummer out of retirement? I wouldn't, just wondering if anyone else would __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-11-2008, 03:13 PM	#26
skinzaholic73 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: West Virginia Age: 39 Posts: 78	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? I think collins leaves,probably to st.louis.I would like to see either Gus F.,Billy Volek or Josh McCown.If there is any chance we can get Seneca Wallace from Seattle that would be sweet!

02-11-2008, 03:15 PM	#28
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,331	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? Why do the Skins never have talent they developed at key back-up positions like QB. Instead if Collins leaves they have to scrape around the bottom of the barrel for one of the most important positions on the team.

02-11-2008, 03:17 PM	#30
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: What does the Zorn hiring mean for Todd Collins? Our QB depth last year probably saved the season. So I wouldn't say we never have quality depth there. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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