Redskins Add Offensive Assistant

Slingin Sammy 33 · 02-13-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

For instance, if a High School coach takes his team to state every year, does that mean he deserves a job at the NFL level? After all, he scouted his team and coached his team to the best of it's ability, and obviously has a great eye for talent. I say no, call it the big Spurrier blunder burnt on my mind. SPurrier was an AMAZING college coach, and it didn't even remotely translate to the NFL. That was only 1 step he had to take too. D3 is just about 1 step above High School football. So while he did do a great job with what he had, how do we know it will translate to the NFL?
Please keep in mind I am not against this hiring, my concern lies with Zorn being HC with no experience then hiring people to surround him with no experience to compliment him. I'm all for giving both of them a shot, but Zorn at HC has me scratching my head.

Thanks. I see where you are coming from and I know you are usually pretty optimistic. Just a couple of thoughts; Spurrier had a great system and really had no trouble recruiting, but he just didn't have the work ethic for the NFL and was spoiled by usually having far superior talent to the teams he played against. When he made the transition to the NFL, he couldn't adjust his system to the talent level of NFL defensive players and he got out. I'll never forget the comment he made, I think in reference to Jim Haslett, about "working smarter". That definitely bit him in the @ss.

I expect Meidt will bring good football knowledge to staff and at the level he is coming in at is probably over-qualified. He definitely won't hurt us, if he stinks he'll be let go.

While I think Zorn will work out, I would really love to know what went on behind closed doors in the interview process. Why didn't things work out with GW? Why not Meeks? What did they really think of Spags? Why didn't they pull the trigger on Fassel? (Why didn't they talk to Ron Rivera....my pet gripe) LOL. We'll never know, just speculate and bottom-line hope Zorn brings us the Lombardi trophy.

MTK · 02-13-2008, 04:04 PM

Interesting read on Meidt:

New Skins Asst. Loves the Onside Kick, Jesus - D.C. Sports Bog

SmootSmack · 02-13-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Interesting read on Meidt:

New Skins Asst. Loves the Onside Kick, Jesus - D.C. Sports Bog

Wow...So it turns out GTripp's real name is Chris Meidt

jsarno · 02-14-2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

But the issue here isn't about why he deserves a shot, it's about why (if for any reason) he doesn't.

It's an odd transition to go from D-III HC to NFL offensive assistant, but roughly lateral. If anything, successful HCs at small college schools will make their way up the college ranks, and then jump to the pros at a position like offensive coordinator.

Just because it's the road less traveled doesn't mean he's going to slip on the ice and crack his neck. (Sorry about the metaphor, it's been a really messy week up here.) The reason that this is the road less traveled is because people who hold a head coaching position usually don't have the ego to swallow their pride and jump to the NFL where you are outranked by every other coach in the organization. The fact that this guy did that really speaks volumes about his character.

But I thought Zorn and Meidt are friends making this an easy move?
I disagree that the move from D3 to offensive assistant is lateral. The move from QB coach in a D1 team to the NFL is lateral. So why are the Skins brass so eager to skip steps with these new coaches? How come no one is really questioning the fact that they are taking the road much, much, MUCH less travelled?
(again, not saying Meidt is a bad choice, it's just an assistant spot, but the point still remains.)

jsarno · 02-14-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Thanks. I see where you are coming from and I know you are usually pretty optimistic. Just a couple of thoughts; Spurrier had a great system and really had no trouble recruiting, but he just didn't have the work ethic for the NFL and was spoiled by usually having far superior talent to the teams he played against. When he made the transition to the NFL, he couldn't adjust his system to the talent level of NFL defensive players and he got out. I'll never forget the comment he made, I think in reference to Jim Haslett, about "working smarter". That definitely bit him in the @ss.

I expect Meidt will bring good football knowledge to staff and at the level he is coming in at is probably over-qualified. He definitely won't hurt us, if he stinks he'll be let go.

While I think Zorn will work out, I would really love to know what went on behind closed doors in the interview process. Why didn't things work out with GW? Why not Meeks? What did they really think of Spags? Why didn't they pull the trigger on Fassel? (Why didn't they talk to Ron Rivera....my pet gripe) LOL. We'll never know, just speculate and bottom-line hope Zorn brings us the Lombardi trophy.

Good questions!
How come Mooch wasn't hired? I really thought he was going to get it cause he seemed the most qualified, especially with the west coast system.
By the way, who did we interview that was a minority?

SmootSmack · 02-14-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Good questions!
How come Mooch wasn't hired? I really thought he was going to get it cause he seemed the most qualified, especially with the west coast system.
By the way, who did we interview that was a minority?

Ron Meeks

jsarno · 02-14-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ron Meeks

The DC of the Colts is a minority? Damn...guess I'm not paying enough attention.

MTK · 02-14-2008, 09:54 AM

I heard he's been a black man his whole life

SmootSmack · 02-14-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I heard he's been a black man his whole life

Well played Matty...well played

Paintrain · 02-14-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I heard he's been a black man his whole life

If he takes a team to the Super Bowl will he have to answer the question, 'How long have you been a black coach?'

Back on topic, I don't know how/why people are viewing this as a bad thing.. Guys, football is football.. NFL, NCAA Div I, NAIA Div III, it doesn't matter.. It's blocking and tackling, that's it.. If the guy is a football svengali and brings a cerebral approach to the game then so be it if he improves an aspect of the game. He's not calling timeouts or throwing challenge flags so what's the issue.

I'm sure most of us have that guy at work who seems to always be in the boss's ear and we all wonder, 'what the hell does he actually do' but he is invaluable to the company's success.

jsarno · 02-14-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I heard he's been a black man his whole life

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Damn...guess I'm not paying enough attention.

I guess some of us just see success, not the color of skin. The skin color has never mattered to me, and I don't remember people that way. I'm sure I have seen pictures of him before, but for some reason I don't recall him being black.

jsarno · 02-14-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well played Matty...well played

What are we playing SS?

SmootSmack · 02-14-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

What are we playing SS?

Othello

MTK · 02-14-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I guess some of us just see success, not the color of skin. The skin color has never mattered to me, and I don't remember people that way. I'm sure I have seen pictures of him before, but for some reason I don't recall him being black.

Really?

Got any pictures of success?

BDBohnzie · 02-14-2008, 02:32 PM

Image Google'd success, first one that came up:

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