(Updated Title) Sherman Smith Joins Redskins as OC

freddyg12 · 02-15-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What makes you think that?

Because of the # of black players & the # of players that go into coaching after their careers. And I'm sure that black players that have no intention of becoming coaches still want to see others get jobs that in the past were not open to them.

My point w/the post is that unfairness, whether percieved or real, is not good for employee morale.

Mattyk · 02-15-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Perhaps because a majority of the players are African American? Technically it is not the 'Rooney Rule' when talking about assistant coaches, of course, but I think he was just expressing some satisfaction at having some minorities in upper level positions (not that the Redskins haven't had any in recent years, including Hue Jackson under Spurrier).

I was just wondering if this view was based on something the players have expressed.

I'm not sure they really care to be honest. I'm sure some do, but it's not like we hear any sort of major outcry over this.

freddyg12 · 02-15-2008, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Perhaps because a majority of the players are African American? Technically it is not the 'Rooney Rule' when talking about assistant coaches, of course, but I think he was just expressing some satisfaction at having some minorities in upper level positions (not that the Redskins haven't had any in recent years, including Hue Jackson under Spurrier).

yes on your first statement. I realize the Rooney Rule applies only to head coaches, but the intent of it is to get more blacks promoted & the best way to become a head coach is to first become a coordinator. (unless of course Snyder & Vinny like you, but I digress)

I think it would be natural for black players to become cynical about the Rooney Rule & the nfl's statements about minority hiring, if they didn't see their own employers taking some steps in this direction. Of course, you could take my argument about the positives of Smith being hired & turn it on its head & say, well the Skins didn't hire Meeks who is black & instead hired a guy who isn't even a coordinator. But my point is that considering we've already hired Zorn (not debating the merits thereof btw), bringing Smith & Mitchell in could be viewed positively by the players because they're both black former players turned coaches who want to advance their careers.

freddyg12 · 02-15-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I was just wondering if this view was based on something the players have expressed.

I'm not sure they really care to be honest. I'm sure some do, but it's not like we hear any sort of major outcry over this.

No Matty, just speculation on my part.

You won't hear any "major outcry" from the players, but if there were no black coaches being promoted after x no. of years w/the Rooney Rule, there would be some bad publicity. While I don't know from experience, I would bet that a large no. of players certainly feel strongly about it, even if they're not compelled to any sort of activism.

saden1 · 02-15-2008, 03:12 PM

WTF are you on about? I'm I missing something or didn't the Skins promote Greg Blache? Besides, all players really care about is winning and $$$.

This whole Rooney Rule shit is starting to irritate me.

celts32 · 02-15-2008, 04:39 PM

Posted at 4:33 PM ET, 02/15/2008
Smith delays decision
Jason Reid reports: Tennessee Titans assistant coach Sherman Smith needs more time to decide whether to join the Redskins, league sources said.
Smith said yesterday that he was leaning toward accepting an offer to become Washington's offensive coordinator under new head coach Jim Zorn, Smith's former teammate and close friend. But Smith early today informed Tennessee Coach Jeff Fisher he planned to reject Washington's offer and remain with the Titans.
At some point in the afternoon, Smith, a member of Fisher's Titans staff since 1995, contacted Zorn to discuss his decision. After speaking with Zorn, Smith called Fisher and said he had decided to reconsider leaving the Titans, the sources said. Fisher told Smith to take his time, and Fisher and Zorn are waiting as Smith huddles with his family.
When I spoke with Smith yesterday, I got the feeling he thought joining Zorn would be best for his career but he really likes Nashville. Smith is a deeply religious man, people who know him well say, and he told me his faith would help to guide him to the right path.
As someone who recently changed jobs after being in one place for a long time, I can relate to many of the emotions Smith told me he was experiencing yesterday. The good news for Zorn is that Smith is taking more time, but Smith's ties to Nashville obviously are strong.

SmootSmack · 02-15-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

Posted at 4:33 PM ET, 02/15/2008
Smith delays decision
Jason Reid reports: Tennessee Titans assistant coach Sherman Smith needs more time to decide whether to join the Redskins, league sources said.
Smith said yesterday that he was leaning toward accepting an offer to become Washington's offensive coordinator under new head coach Jim Zorn, Smith's former teammate and close friend. But Smith early today informed Tennessee Coach Jeff Fisher he planned to reject Washington's offer and remain with the Titans.
At some point in the afternoon, Smith, a member of Fisher's Titans staff since 1995, contacted Zorn to discuss his decision. After speaking with Zorn, Smith called Fisher and said he had decided to reconsider leaving the Titans, the sources said. Fisher told Smith to take his time, and Fisher and Zorn are waiting as Smith huddles with his family.
When I spoke with Smith yesterday, I got the feeling he thought joining Zorn would be best for his career but he really likes Nashville. Smith is a deeply religious man, people who know him well say, and he told me his faith would help to guide him to the right path.
As someone who recently changed jobs after being in one place for a long time, I can relate to many of the emotions Smith told me he was experiencing yesterday. The good news for Zorn is that Smith is taking more time, but Smith's ties to Nashville obviously are strong.

Oh yay! Now we'll get more "nobody wants to be a coach here" posts.

Anyway, this indecision is sort of why I brought this up yesterday

http://www.redskinswarpath.com/422446-post8.html

The Jason's and the WaPo sports staff dig holes for themselves with their poor editing.

EEich · 02-15-2008, 05:29 PM

Smith is a done deal... will be announced shortly.

Longtimefan · 02-15-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EEich

Smith is a done deal... will be announced shortly.

JLC Just updated, Done deal

SmootSmack · 02-15-2008, 05:51 PM

So the full staff is set now?

Longtimefan · 02-15-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So the full staff is set now?

And I guess we can officially welcome Sherman Smith to the Redskin family.

Z-Man got his man.

Dirtbag59 · 02-15-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

JLC Just updated, Done deal

Poor JLC, the guy can't get a break. I say the guys going to die this offseason due to sleep deprivation. Dan Snyder on the other hand has turned himself into a cyborg, that way he use all day to process NFL coaching canidates and free agents that he can spend money on. It's hard keeping track of a cyborg.

Soup's Uncle · 02-15-2008, 05:59 PM

I agree

Cap'nChaos47 · 02-15-2008, 06:05 PM

And awaaaaaaaaaaay they go!

Time to win the offseason baby!

Longtimefan · 02-15-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Poor JLC, the guy can't get a break. I say the guys going to die this offseason due to sleep deprivation. Dan Snyder on the other hand has turned himself into a cyborg, that way he use all day to process NFL coaching canidates and free agents that he can spend money on. It's hard keeping track of a cyborg.

He's mentioned on more than one ocasion how the process has taken it's toll on him. It's amazing how he's battled that traffic on Interstate 95, back and forth between Ashburn Va. & Baltimore. Dont koow how he manages.

02-15-2008, 03:12 PM	#20
saden1 Eternally Legendary Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 33 Posts: 9,738	Re: Insider: Sherman Smith...Still Deciding WTF are you on about? I'm I missing something or didn't the Skins promote Greg Blache? Besides, all players really care about is winning and $$$. This whole Rooney Rule shit is starting to irritate me. __________________ RG3, RGIII, RG三, RG३, RGγʹ, RGג, RG٣, RG๓, RG..., RG셋, RGԳ!

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celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 41 Posts: 2,643	Re: Insider: Sherman Smith...Still Deciding Posted at 4:33 PM ET, 02/15/2008 Smith delays decision Jason Reid reports: Tennessee Titans assistant coach Sherman Smith needs more time to decide whether to join the Redskins, league sources said. Smith said yesterday that he was leaning toward accepting an offer to become Washington's offensive coordinator under new head coach Jim Zorn, Smith's former teammate and close friend. But Smith early today informed Tennessee Coach Jeff Fisher he planned to reject Washington's offer and remain with the Titans. At some point in the afternoon, Smith, a member of Fisher's Titans staff since 1995, contacted Zorn to discuss his decision. After speaking with Zorn, Smith called Fisher and said he had decided to reconsider leaving the Titans, the sources said. Fisher told Smith to take his time, and Fisher and Zorn are waiting as Smith huddles with his family. When I spoke with Smith yesterday, I got the feeling he thought joining Zorn would be best for his career but he really likes Nashville. Smith is a deeply religious man, people who know him well say, and he told me his faith would help to guide him to the right path. As someone who recently changed jobs after being in one place for a long time, I can relate to many of the emotions Smith told me he was experiencing yesterday. The good news for Zorn is that Smith is taking more time, but Smith's ties to Nashville obviously are strong. __________________ Section 115 Row 23 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” http://victorybeer.com/

02-15-2008, 05:29 PM	#23
EEich The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bristol, CT Age: 49 Posts: 1,001	Re: Insider: Sherman Smith...Still Deciding Smith is a done deal... will be announced shortly.

02-15-2008, 05:51 PM	#25
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,105	Re: Insider: Sherman Smith...Still Deciding So the full staff is set now? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-15-2008, 05:59 PM	#28
Soup's Uncle Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 354	Re: Insider: Sherman Smith...Still Deciding I agree

02-15-2008, 06:05 PM	#29
Cap'nChaos47 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 38	Re: Insider: Sherman Smith...Still Deciding And awaaaaaaaaaaay they go! Time to win the offseason baby! __________________ A Redskins advocate - Let's be honest... We'll love whoever Mr. Snyder picks as the Head Coach. HERE'S TO A PROMISING 2008 SEASON - NO MATTER WHAT LIES AROUND THE OFF-SEASON CORNERS!

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