Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-18-2008, 08:30 AM   #31
Playmaker
 
BrudLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Posts: 3,494
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Dirtbag -

My counterpoint was not intended to slight your point about Coles. Check the record here on our support of him when that news came out. IIRC we mods were zero tolerance on anyone who broached that subject matter in a lighthearted manner.

My point (and I do have one) is that Coles put himself in a bad situation here by demanding a trade when he didn't like the offense in 2004 (despite catching 90 passes, he thought he was being misused). He appears to be putting himself in a bad situation in New York now by stating he need to be taken care of financially, despite collecting more bonus money in the past five years than nearly every player in the game.

As a boy, Coles was the victim of an unspeakable crime. That is completely seperate from his professional travails now.
__________________
There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.
BrudLee is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 02-18-2008, 10:57 AM   #32
Naega jeil jal naga
 
Dirtbag59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
Age: 29
Posts: 14,506
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrudLee View Post
Dirtbag -

My counterpoint was not intended to slight your point about Coles. Check the record here on our support of him when that news came out. IIRC we mods were zero tolerance on anyone who broached that subject matter in a lighthearted manner.

My point (and I do have one) is that Coles put himself in a bad situation here by demanding a trade when he didn't like the offense in 2004 (despite catching 90 passes, he thought he was being misused). He appears to be putting himself in a bad situation in New York now by stating he need to be taken care of financially, despite collecting more bonus money in the past five years than nearly every player in the game.

As a boy, Coles was the victim of an unspeakable crime. That is completely seperate from his professional travails now.
Like I said. I opened a can of worms and I'm sorry. I let my emotions get the best of me on a touchy subject. If anything I wish we could delete all my posts and the responses to the subject I brought up. This whole ordeal turned into an unintentional troll.

If anything the Warpath is a place for discussing Football, and more specifically Redskin football. My post is completly off topic and is relatively close to producing the same effect that the trolls produced during certain events over the past year.

Right now I just want to get back to talking Redskin football, and discuss how we're going to get rid of our picks this year.
__________________
6.67×10−11 m3 kg−1 s−2

"I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now."
- FRPLG
Dirtbag59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 11:15 AM   #33
Playmaker
 
celts32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hackettstown NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 2,656
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

If Coles were a free agent now he would not get a big deal...he's not as good as he thinks he is and he's hit 30.
__________________
Section 115 Row 23

“Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.”

http://victorybeer.com/
celts32 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 11:35 AM   #34
Special Teams
 
mcarey032's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Arlington, VA.
Posts: 215
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Don't like Coles. Liked him when he came on board with the redskins, but began complaining about not getting enough balls???? 90 BALLS ISN"T ENOUGH? Then he wouldn't get surgery on his toe, which to this day hasn't healed right. It is not worth the trouble to get him involved.
mcarey032 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 12:04 PM   #35
Impact Rookie
 
Campbell17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Haddonfield, NJ
Age: 20
Posts: 642
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn View Post
Wrong, he had TWO GREAT years with the SKINS. If you where to remember in 2003 he also made the Pro Bowl.

You would almost rather have BL.....huh, that piece of shit hasn't even had A GOOD GAME IN DC in two years!
An overexzageration, or however it is spelled. He was solid I guess but he has lost his touch.
__________________
This time instead of some lousy joke, humerous comment, racial slur, or a famous quote, I will write small, and be the bigger person.
Campbell17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 01:19 PM   #36
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 36
Posts: 12,623
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

36 posts on this thread and no one has hit the real meat of this story. Coles isn't complaining that he's underpaid. He's complaining that the Jets lied to him and misled him about their intentions, stringing him along and repeatedly putting off an extension. If they promised him an extension, then praised him for his toughness and selflessness, then state their reason for not signing him as lack of production... that's pretty bogus if you ask me. Especially coming from a team with huge QB issues, and poor running game, and a lousy offensive line. It's not like he stunk up the joint with Peyton Manning throwing to him. Clemens is totally unproven and Pennington couldn't throw a football through a wet paper towel.

Coles is a leader on that team and the one constant on an otherwise anemic offense. They should resign him. He and Cotchery are a pretty good tandem. Bottom line is the Jets are cheap.
__________________
Insert witty signature here
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 01:45 PM   #37
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 81,131
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMScud View Post
36 posts on this thread and no one has hit the real meat of this story. Coles isn't complaining that he's underpaid. He's complaining that the Jets lied to him and misled him about their intentions, stringing him along and repeatedly putting of an extension. If they promised him an extension, then praised him for his toughness and selflessness, then state their reason for not signing him as lack of production... that's pretty bogus if you ask me. Especially coming from a team with huge QB issues, and poor running game, and a lousy offensive line. It's not like he stunk up the joint with Peyton Manning throwing to him. Clemens is totally unproven and Pennington couldn't throw a football through a wet paper towel.

Coles is a leader on that team and the one constant on an otherwise anemic offense. They should resign him. He and Cotchery are a pretty good tandem. Bottom line is the Jets are cheap.
I'm sure Pete Kendall would agree with that
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 05:17 PM   #38
Playmaker
 
BrudLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Posts: 3,494
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMScud View Post
36 posts on this thread and no one has hit the real meat of this story. Coles isn't complaining that he's underpaid. He's complaining that the Jets lied to him and misled him about their intentions, stringing him along and repeatedly putting of an extension. If they promised him an extension, then praised him for his toughness and selflessness, then state their reason for not signing him as lack of production... that's pretty bogus if you ask me. Especially coming from a team with huge QB issues, and poor running game, and a lousy offensive line. It's not like he stunk up the joint with Peyton Manning throwing to him. Clemens is totally unproven and Pennington couldn't throw a football through a wet paper towel.

Coles is a leader on that team and the one constant on an otherwise anemic offense. They should resign him. He and Cotchery are a pretty good tandem. Bottom line is the Jets are cheap.
If they said they'd extend him and don't, it's a tough break. If they said they'd "take care of him," they have offered to guarantee his salary. That's a big deal.
__________________
There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.
BrudLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2008, 08:23 PM   #39
Impact Rookie
 
Stuck in TX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Age: 28
Posts: 545
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

did anyone see the Jets's official website a few years ago right before the Coles/Moss trade? there was a giant 87 and the words "Bring Back Coles". All I remember thinking is how bad that must have made Moss feel, and how much those fans liked Coles... I bet Coles wishes the Jets felt the same way.
__________________
We will miss you Sean.
RIP
1983-2007

REMEMBER VT
Go Hokies
Stuck in TX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 03:59 PM   #40
Camp Scrub
 
fanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

I love LC and would love to see him resigned. Let me remind everyone that the Jets drafted him and gave him time to develop even after no one wanted him because of the FSU Dilliard's incident and a battery charge. This is business folks. I can think of dozens of players recently who said that they were done wrong with contract negotiations, some on the Skins. The Jets offered to guarantee, yes a guarantee in the middle of his contract, for 2 years $11 million. Now that is rare and is far from 'cheap.'

Everything Coles says is true -- he's been a good player, a good leader, a guy who will play hurt. But he's hardly been underpaid. He's averaged about $5.5 million a year since the expiration of his rookie contract while averaging about 950 receiving yards a season and is scheduled to be paid as a top 15 WR in 2008. In two years, his best seasons will be behind him and extending him and giving him a raise is not prudent.

Coles is as tough as they come, but you Skins fans know all about the whining. He DEMANDED a trade after not being a big part of the Gibbs offense in 2004. Prior to that in 2003, he admitted to leaving the Jets "because the Redskins offered him more money." Where was HIS loyalty then?
fanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 04:24 PM   #41
Pro Bowl
 
Giantone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 5,027
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by fanatic View Post
I love LC and would love to see him resigned. Let me remind everyone that the Jets drafted him and gave him time to develop even after no one wanted him because of the FSU Dilliard's incident and a battery charge. This is business folks. I can think of dozens of players recently who said that they were done wrong with contract negotiations, some on the Skins. The Jets offered to guarantee, yes a guarantee in the middle of his contract, for 2 years $11 million. Now that is rare and is far from 'cheap.'

Everything Coles says is true -- he's been a good player, a good leader, a guy who will play hurt. But he's hardly been underpaid. He's averaged about $5.5 million a year since the expiration of his rookie contract while averaging about 950 receiving yards a season and is scheduled to be paid as a top 15 WR in 2008. In two years, his best seasons will be behind him and extending him and giving him a raise is not prudent.

Coles is as tough as they come, but you Skins fans know all about the whining. He DEMANDED a trade after not being a big part of the Gibbs offense in 2004. Prior to that in 2003, he admitted to leaving the Jets "because the Redskins offered him more money." Where was HIS loyalty then?

Did the Jets lie, who knows?AS far as football is concerned He has never been underpaid,he has never been happy anywhere he has gone and sure as hell has never been a team leader,he complains about something anything no matter where he goes.
I don't understand your post ,you say everything he says is true and then you make a case against it????
Giantone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 04:40 PM   #42
Registered User
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 50
Posts: 15,818
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMScud View Post
36 posts on this thread and no one has hit the real meat of this story. Coles isn't complaining that he's underpaid. He's complaining that the Jets lied to him and misled him about their intentions, stringing him along and repeatedly putting off an extension. If they promised him an extension, then praised him for his toughness and selflessness, then state their reason for not signing him as lack of production... that's pretty bogus if you ask me. Especially coming from a team with huge QB issues, and poor running game, and a lousy offensive line. It's not like he stunk up the joint with Peyton Manning throwing to him. Clemens is totally unproven and Pennington couldn't throw a football through a wet paper towel.

Coles is a leader on that team and the one constant on an otherwise anemic offense. They should resign him. He and Cotchery are a pretty good tandem. Bottom line is the Jets are cheap.
He still has two years left on his deal why would the Jets extend his deal at this time? Maybe next year he has something to complain about but not with two years left. If he thought his numbers would increase over the next two years do you think he would be complaining about a new deal?
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2008, 10:37 PM   #43
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Age: 36
Posts: 12,623
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
He still has two years left on his deal why would the Jets extend his deal at this time? Maybe next year he has something to complain about but not with two years left. If he thought his numbers would increase over the next two years do you think he would be complaining about a new deal?
My point is the Jets were either intentionally misleading him or putting him off. Most likely both. And that's a shitty thing to do to a team leader (he is on the Jets btw, although not here in Wash) who leaves it all on the field every Sunday, hurt or not. It's not like he's a fringe player or a bad apple. He can go vertical, over the middle, block, play hurt, has strong hands... Look, Coles is a great player. Underrated. And the Jets are apparently doing him dirty. That's all I'm saying. I never once said he's underpaid.
__________________
Insert witty signature here
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2008, 01:29 AM   #44
Living Legend
 
That Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Springfield, VA
Age: 31
Posts: 16,259
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

how is guaranteeing 11$mill over two yaers for a 30 year old WR being cheap? i mean, come on.
__________________
Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!
That Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2008, 06:59 AM   #45
Impact Rookie
 
hagams's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Okinawa, Japan
Age: 35
Posts: 887
Re: Coles Says Jets Lied to Him

Quote:
Originally Posted by SBXVII View Post
Poor Coles. I liked him as a Redskin. I think he needed a good Doc. to fix his toe and stay off of it. In any event, didn't he leave the team bad mouthing the owner and organization? Didn't he say something along the lines of " I should never have left the Jets" also. Have fun Coles enjoy the team you should have never left.
Poor-Coles-My-Ass. This guy is a bum. He doesn't deserve Brandon Lloyd money, wait....neither did Lloyd.
__________________
We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!
hagams is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.67079 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25