My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins

bigm29 · 02-17-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Close -- Portis and Taylor sent Gibbs a fruit basket apparently, but Greg Williams begged Gibbs to draft Taylor. Gibbs reportedly wanted KWII. Lucky for us, we were in a can't miss situation, but we made the right choice.

Yeah passed up on KWll. and who did we draft in rnd3? Chris Cooley baby... who is better than KW'll

So happy that day when we picked taylor over him

Defensewins · 02-17-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

I completely agree with you.

I do not like that a moderator and others are resorting to name calling, calling people or their ideas "ignorant and retarded" is not what this web page should be about. I enjoy reading other people's opinions on the Redskins whether I agree with them or not. I do not like when it resorts to childish name calling and one upsmanship.
We do not all have to agree and think Cerratto and Snyer are great.I have been a huge Redskins fan for over 40 years. I do not have to be a Snyder or Cerratto fan.

SmootSmack · 02-17-2008, 01:11 PM

I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate.

And it's just really interesting to note that he doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with Brunell. Yeah, yeah, I know it was all the defense. That's of course, total bs. Portis, Cooley, Brunell, and Moss all set Redskins and individual records on offense that season (not as positive about Portis actually). His comment about Jansen is completely ignorant (unless Skins009 happens to be Julius Peppers). He doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with our 6th round pick and starter Anthony Montgomery anchoring the middle, or with Reed Doughty stepping in for Sean Taylor (RIP) for the last six weeks of the season, or with CFL stand-out Chris Wilson notching two sacks in the playoff clincher, or with undrafted Stephon Heyer holding it down at RT.

Damn straight it's ignorant. And it should be called out as such.

wolfeskins · 02-17-2008, 01:19 PM

i'd say the front office has really improved over the last 5 or 6 years. it's just that snyder started off so poorly with the big contracts of washed up players (sanders,george,smith,carrier,etc) ever since then he has been watched and scrutinized by everyone. snyder and VC have made some poor choices and some very good choices in free agency and the draft. i'd rank the skins as better than average, in both free agency and the draft, when compared with the other 31 nfl teams.

skins009 · 02-17-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate.

And it's just really interesting to note that he doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with Brunell. Yeah, yeah, I know it was all the defense. That's of course, total bs. Portis, Cooley, Brunell, and Moss all set Redskins and individual records on offense that season (not as positive about Portis actually). His comment about Jansen is completely ignorant (unless Skins009 happens to be Julius Peppers). He doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with our 6th round pick and starter Anthony Montgomery anchoring the middle, or with Reed Doughty stepping in for Sean Taylor (RIP) for the last six weeks of the season, or with CFL stand-out Chris Wilson notching two sacks in the playoff clincher, or with undrafted Stephon Heyer holding it down at RT.

Damn straight it's ignorant. And it should be called out as such.

You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.

wolfeskins · 02-17-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak.

come on now, that really is a retarded comment.

SmootSmack · 02-17-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.

Well, I know enough about football to know that while we have made mistakes it doesn't tell the whole story. And I know enough about football to know that there's no point in making predictions before the draft or even free agency has begun.

Mattyk · 02-17-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate.

A turd is a turd and we'll continue to call it that way in the name of encouraging more meaningful discussion.

Defensewins · 02-17-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'd say the front office has really improved over the last 5 or 6 years. it's just that snyder started off so poorly with the big contracts of washed up players (sanders,george,smith,carrier,etc) ever since then he has been watched and scrutinized by everyone. snyder and VC have made some poor choices and some very good choices in free agency and the draft. i'd rank the skins as better than average, in both free agency and the draft, when compared with the other 31 nfl teams.

Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan

Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright

Talk about retarded comments.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-17-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan

Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright

Talk about retarded comments.

After this off-season only one of those guys will still be on the team

SmootSmack · 02-17-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Five years ago we drafted:
Taylor Jacobs
Derrick Dockery
Gibran Hamdan

Six years ago we drafted:
Patrick Ramsey
Ladell Betts
Clifford Russell
Robert Royal
Reggie Coleman
Jeff Grau
Gregory Scott
Rock Cartwright

Talk about retarded comments.

He said it's improved over the last 5 or 6 years. Not that it was great 5-6 years ago.

DynamiteRave · 02-17-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

After this off-season only one of those guys will still be on the team

It's Hamden right?

skinsfan_nn · 02-17-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by skins009

You clearly have forgotten how bad our offense was that first year in the playoffs.
If you want evidence of how bad Jansen is watch the tape of the pre-season this last year. Specifically the titans game.
We've only been making the playoff's because the NFC is so weak. The skins remind me a lot of the chiefs from a couple of years ago who were making the playoffs but clearly were not a solid team.
You can see me prediction above. If your so bold, make your own prediction then we'll see who knows more about football and building a championship franchise.

Dude, your football knowledge is very weak and one sided to say the least IMO! That was one pre-season game, doesn't every player have a bad game...ESPECIALLY in pre- season or you've never seen that before?

We've only made the playoffs because the NFC is so weak....huh? Well being the Super bowl champions came out of not only the NFC, but the NFC EAST is that what you call weak, I'm sorry your points are just flat out merit less and retarded IMO.

Soup's Uncle · 02-17-2008, 03:06 PM

Also, no team in the NFC East was under .500. We play in one of the toughest divisions in the league.

Defensewins · 02-17-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He said it's improved over the last 5 or 6 years. Not that it was great 5-6 years ago.

???????
So what improvement do you see from six years ago to five years ago?
Draft wise we actually regressed. The draft six years ago at least we kept Ladell Betts and Rock Cartright. The draft five years ago we kept none of them.
Where is the improvement?

02-17-2008, 01:11 PM	#18
SmootSmack Mad Men Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,095	Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins I don't like that people think the moderators aren't entitled to their own opinions. Skins009 started this thread so he put his own opinions up there for scrutiny and debate. And it's just really interesting to note that he doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with Brunell. Yeah, yeah, I know it was all the defense. That's of course, total bs. Portis, Cooley, Brunell, and Moss all set Redskins and individual records on offense that season (not as positive about Portis actually). His comment about Jansen is completely ignorant (unless Skins009 happens to be Julius Peppers). He doesn't mention that we made the playoffs with our 6th round pick and starter Anthony Montgomery anchoring the middle, or with Reed Doughty stepping in for Sean Taylor (RIP) for the last six weeks of the season, or with CFL stand-out Chris Wilson notching two sacks in the playoff clincher, or with undrafted Stephon Heyer holding it down at RT. Damn straight it's ignorant. And it should be called out as such. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-17-2008, 01:19 PM	#19
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins i'd say the front office has really improved over the last 5 or 6 years. it's just that snyder started off so poorly with the big contracts of washed up players (sanders,george,smith,carrier,etc) ever since then he has been watched and scrutinized by everyone. snyder and VC have made some poor choices and some very good choices in free agency and the draft. i'd rank the skins as better than average, in both free agency and the draft, when compared with the other 31 nfl teams. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

02-17-2008, 03:06 PM	#29
Soup's Uncle Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Damascus, MD Posts: 354	Re: My worst Fear: V Cerrato Running the Redskins Also, no team in the NFC East was under .500. We play in one of the toughest divisions in the league.

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