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Old 02-18-2008, 11:10 PM   #31
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Yeah, I've got mixed feeling about that. I hear what they're saying about Marcus Washington and Chris Wilson together being effective pass rushers. But why not just get one guy who can do that? And I thought they were pretty content with Montgomery and Golston's progress.

Of course, if they get a DE I don't think he should be a pass-rushing specialist like Wilson. He needs to be able to play the run effectively as well.
The top three D-tackles are Griffin, Montgomery, and Golston. With Griffin getting a little long in the tooth, they'd probably be a bit more comfortable with one more solid guy in the middle. To me, Golston will always be #3 in the D-tackle rotation.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:17 PM   #32
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Corey Williams would be the perfect compliment to our team...let's get him NOW!
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:17 PM   #33
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If Calais Campbell or Phillip Merling fall to us IMO we need to take one of them. I think the production of Washington and Wilson had a lot to do with scheme rather than straight up physically beating the OL. I'm with you, there is no substitute for a DE that can physically dominate his man in both the pass & run game. (The Giants looked pretty good doing it, and Mario Williams is making Casserly look like a genius for passing on Bush). I think Cerrato may also be throwing out a little smoke-screen prior to the combine and draft.
From what I've read, Casserly can get neither the credit for taking Williams, nor the blame for passing on Bush because it was Bud Adams who wasn't willing to put up the big time money Bush was going to get as the #1 pick. So Casserly was only following the owners' orders.

Funny how quickly Reggie Bush fell completely out of the limelight. In New Orleans, they're all but certain he'll never be the prime RB -- McAllister is still the go-to guy.
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:42 PM   #34
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One more thing about DEs -- just got finished checking the stats for our boy Chris Clemons from a few years back. He had 8 sacks for the Raiders in '07 as a linebacker.

Wonder what his contract situation is? Was it a one year thing? He was one I never thought we should have let get away.
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One more thing about DEs -- just got finished checking the stats for our boy Chris Clemons from a few years back. He had 8 sacks for the Raiders in '07 as a linebacker.

Wonder what his contract situation is? Was it a one year thing? He was one I never thought we should have let get away.
He is a UFA. Doubt he would want to come back though.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:23 AM   #36
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Funny how it's ok to overpay for certain guys.
Funny how when we overpay for certain guys and they work out that DS and the FO don't get credit for that.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:25 AM   #37
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He is a UFA. Doubt he would want to come back though.
the guy that let him go is in jacksonville. i doubt he cares either way, though his job stability is probably better (in the short term) in oakland... that is, until kiffin gets axed.
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Re: Lets overpay for Jared Allen

I still think the draft is where we get our much needed DEs at this point.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:35 AM   #39
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I think smart teams draft linemen and sign skill players. Linemen are easier to project and take to the NFL faster. QBs and WRs are complete crap shoots and RBs are a dime a dozen. We need to focus on CBs and linemen in the draft because that's where you get cheap studs more easily. We could concievably use our first round pick on Dline and our 3 and 4 on Oline then do the opposite next year and have remade our lines totally in 2 years. Cheaply. That is to say if we do a decent job evaluating. It justs seems smarter to me to do that and spend the same amount of money on those 6 players than to shell out for players who may not be any better than what we can get in the draft.

Look at successful teams they ALL draft their lines. Especially the Dlines.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:13 AM   #40
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The cheifs just franchised him, which means he would cost a 1st and 4rd rounder in addition to a hefty contract extension.

Thats not gonna happen.
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Re: Lets overpay for Jared Allen

The franchise tag is annoying.
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The cheifs just franchised him, which means he would cost a 1st and 4rd rounder in addition to a hefty contract extension.

Thats not gonna happen.
Franchise tag is 2 1st round picks.. Transition tag is a 1st and 3rd..

Either way, he's not going to be a Redskin any time soon.
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:20 PM   #43
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Re: Lets overpay for Jared Allen

Let's not overpay for anyone...It's not like we have any absolute desperate needs anywhere (except possibly a need to get younger at CB). We were good on defense and if healthy can be good on offense. Why not just take smaller steps each offseason and add only when we need to in FA AND when it is sensible (i.e. not break the bank and screw ourselves for when we truly do have a need)? With the money and draft picks we save by not "Snydering it" this offseason maybe we can add quality depth and RETAIN THE TALENT WE ARE CURRENTLY DEVELOPING. Let's not forget that we were a playoff team that lost many close games in the regular season (not exactly a team that needs a complete overhauL). I think that if we changed nothing this offseason our team as a whole would still progress. I'm all for some tweaks and changes here and there this offseason but lets not handicap ourselves like we typically do.
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Old 02-19-2008, 05:29 PM   #44
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Also I think its funny that a majority of ppl are willing to criticize Dan Snyder for overpaying and chasing FA's but yet if the same skins fans were polled, I think a majority would advocate breakin the bank for an Asante Samuel or Chad Johnson or some other big name guy...At some level there is some hypocrisy going on!

For the record I don't want one of those big name FA's unless they really fit our system and come at a bargain price this year...
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:13 PM   #45
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Re: Lets overpay for Jared Allen

We can't pay or overpay Jared Allen; he's been franchised by the Chiefs. You knew they weren't going to let someone of his caliber go. He led the NFL in sacks and is only 25-was probably the best free agent on the market.
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