UFAs Briggs and Samuel

ChillWill · 02-18-2008, 08:36 PM

The latest reports are that McCintosh will be ready for camp. I honestly don't see were Briggs brings anything off the edge and I also believe he is better in Chi-town because off Urlacher. But Blache should be a good judge if Briggs is a good fit or not.

bearskins · 02-18-2008, 08:39 PM

Yes, that is just what we need. More FAs in long term deals. Shelf life of most of these guys is 5-8 years, tops. We need to build with young, hungry talent from the draft. As long as someone other than DS is in charge of talent eval and selection.

That Guy · 02-18-2008, 11:45 PM

don't waste big money on LBs when slightly lesser talent is available cheaply.

briggs would be nice, but not over a stud WR or DE and that's where i rather put the money, if possible.

either way, when you change staffs like we just have, the first year back probably isn't going to be a great run into the playoffs, so it might be better to wait a year, give the cap some room and see how well the guys we have are playing in december.

I mean, if a great deal comes up, that's one thing, but overspending when we're just not in a (historically) good position to make the playoffs, well, that'd just hurt us even more down the road, especially when we're talking about guys that don't really address an immediate need.

SkinsFanSince91 · 02-20-2008, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I am not entirely opposed to the idea of bringing Briggs here for the right price. As for Samuel, I think the draft has several good DBs that the need for him really isn't there. Especially not at the high price he'd command.

I completely agree. I would pay for Briggs, but not for Samuel, especially after that huge contract the Nate Clements got in SF. Samuel will no doubt look for something better than the $80 mill that Nate got.

Mattyk · 02-20-2008, 12:26 PM

I'm on board with Briggs now. I wasn't sold last year but now with the way our LBs look I can justify going after him.

bigm29 · 02-20-2008, 01:25 PM

i gotta say i really dont want us to sign one big name this offseason. I want us to draft our depth so bad. when looking at the future i guess briggs could be the replacement for washington and samuel for springs. I also look at HB Blades as our future middle linebacker so I want players that are going to listen to him. like players younger then him who will look up to him. of course i dont play for the team so i have no idea how it would actually work out but thats the way i look at it, could be wrong

halodoc · 02-20-2008, 02:08 PM

i dont think we need briggs , theres alot other options avalible at lb in the free agent market who will be good enuff. but a.samuel im not oposed to ,he is a ball hawk who causes turn overs, which without sean taylor there isnt anyone that can do that in are secondary consitently.shawn springs can shut down a wr ,but isnt much for pics. plus he slowing down a little( rember talks about moving him to safty last year) an him and his big contract will be gone next year leaving a whole that a recovering carlos rodgers will not be able to fill. then draft a dlineman in the 1st rnd, and pick up some backups/starters in free agency at other pos. wr from seattle dj hacket ,also from seattle g f wolmack ,lb boss bailey det or v hobson from the jets and either a odm or t laboy both de from the titans. but if we dont get samuel then d florence from chargers and go after coery williams dt from packers if he doesnt get franchised soon.

GTripp0012 · 02-20-2008, 02:18 PM

A Briggs signing would spell the end of the line--or the delayed departure, of Marcus Washington. We're probably not planning on going too far foward with a 28 year old, a 32year old, and a 33 year old at linebacker.

halodoc · 02-20-2008, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by halodoc

i dont think we need briggs , theres alot other options avalible at lb in the free agent market who will be good enuff. but a.samuel im not oposed to ,he is a ball hawk who causes turn overs, which without sean taylor there isnt anyone that can do that in are secondary consitently.shawn springs can shut down a wr ,but isnt much for pics. plus he slowing down a little( rember talks about moving him to safty last year) an him and his big contract will be gone next year leaving a whole that a recovering carlos rodgers will not be able to fill. then draft a dlineman in the 1st rnd, and pick up some backups/starters in free agency at other pos. wr from seattle dj hacket ,also from seattle g f wolmack ,lb boss bailey det or v hobson from the jets and either a odm or t laboy both de from the titans. but if we dont get samuel then d florence from chargers and go after coery williams dt from packers if he doesnt get franchised soon.

c.willams did get franchised ,but they said they might trade him ,yet proberly to expensive for us.and are the lions still trying to dump shaun rodgers dt ?

halodoc · 02-21-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by halodoc

i dont think we need briggs , theres alot other options avalible at lb in the free agent market who will be good enuff. but a.samuel im not oposed to ,he is a ball hawk who causes turn overs, which without sean taylor there isnt anyone that can do that in are secondary consitently.quote]

Did you watch the Seattle Playoff game at all? We do have Laron Landry who, I'm sorry, will be better then Sean Taylor in my opinion.

your right landry will be a beast for us , and he did have thouse picks once they moved him into seans postion. but im still not sure hell consitently get picks. i hope he does and think he will ,but regardless we need to cause more turnovers. now whether we get them from improved dline play or a boost in the secondary,doesnt matter aslong as we get them.and i would like the cb trio of springs (shut down there top wr) ,samuel (ballhawk) , and smoot (tackle machine), and landry (hard hitter) back there too.

mcarey032 · 02-24-2008, 01:36 PM

If we are not going to video tape the other teams signals and know the plays like the Patriots did, I don't want Asante Samuel. He is good player, but I don't believe that he is worth the money that he is asking for. Briggs seems like an impact player, but I don't know that I would necessarily want a player who is going to be a problem down the road about his money. Let's not forget the fact that he had an issue off the field with Drunk driving incident and then also filing a false police report.

Warrior1971 · 02-24-2008, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Given that two of our young defensive players, Rogers and McIntosh, are recovering from serious injuries, I was curious to get people's opinion on two big time unrestricted free agents: Lance Briggs and Asante Samuel. I know that Briggs is the most likely out of these two to come to Washington, but Samuel could be a nice addition to our defensive unit. I honestly think that had Samuel not gotten tagged last year by the Patriots, he would've come here.

Both want to much cha ching $$$$$$$, I feel there are better guys for less $$$$$$$ out there and in the draft.

Dirtbag59 · 02-24-2008, 11:52 PM

I don't know how you're going to make Briggs work. By signing him your either saying that your switching to a 3-4 or you're giving up on Washington or Rocky.

As I said in another thread the front office needs to rely on its ability to identify good players in the draft. They've done an excellent job with the picks they have had and not capitalizing on that ability is a huge waste.

That Guy · 02-24-2008, 11:53 PM

asante wants 10 year 100mill, 30mill guaranteed... briggs aint worth his price either.

skinsfan69 · 02-25-2008, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A Briggs signing would spell the end of the line--or the delayed departure, of Marcus Washington. We're probably not planning on going too far foward with a 28 year old, a 32year old, and a 33 year old at linebacker.

What about Blades? He was a tackling machine at Pittsburgh. Hopefully he'll learn from Fletcher and be ready to take over in 09. Is Rocky already 28 going into his 3rd year? That doesn't sound right. Anyhow I think we're fine with those two guys and we'll have to get somebody for Washington, either throught the draft or FA. But whatever we do let's not OVERPAY for Briggs. I just don't see him worth the $ he's going to ask for. He's a nice player but I didn't see him sacking the QB very often.

02-18-2008, 08:36 PM	#16
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 58 Posts: 151	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel The latest reports are that McCintosh will be ready for camp. I honestly don't see were Briggs brings anything off the edge and I also believe he is better in Chi-town because off Urlacher. But Blache should be a good judge if Briggs is a good fit or not.

02-18-2008, 08:39 PM	#17
bearskins Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel Yes, that is just what we need. More FAs in long term deals. Shelf life of most of these guys is 5-8 years, tops. We need to build with young, hungry talent from the draft. As long as someone other than DS is in charge of talent eval and selection.

02-18-2008, 11:45 PM	#18
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,642	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel don't waste big money on LBs when slightly lesser talent is available cheaply. briggs would be nice, but not over a stud WR or DE and that's where i rather put the money, if possible. either way, when you change staffs like we just have, the first year back probably isn't going to be a great run into the playoffs, so it might be better to wait a year, give the cap some room and see how well the guys we have are playing in december. I mean, if a great deal comes up, that's one thing, but overspending when we're just not in a (historically) good position to make the playoffs, well, that'd just hurt us even more down the road, especially when we're talking about guys that don't really address an immediate need. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

02-20-2008, 12:26 PM	#20
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel I'm on board with Briggs now. I wasn't sold last year but now with the way our LBs look I can justify going after him. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

02-20-2008, 01:25 PM	#21
bigm29 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ Age: 25 Posts: 350	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel i gotta say i really dont want us to sign one big name this offseason. I want us to draft our depth so bad. when looking at the future i guess briggs could be the replacement for washington and samuel for springs. I also look at HB Blades as our future middle linebacker so I want players that are going to listen to him. like players younger then him who will look up to him. of course i dont play for the team so i have no idea how it would actually work out but thats the way i look at it, could be wrong __________________ Hail Redskins!!!

02-20-2008, 02:08 PM	#22
halodoc Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: md Age: 32 Posts: 71	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel i dont think we need briggs , theres alot other options avalible at lb in the free agent market who will be good enuff. but a.samuel im not oposed to ,he is a ball hawk who causes turn overs, which without sean taylor there isnt anyone that can do that in are secondary consitently.shawn springs can shut down a wr ,but isnt much for pics. plus he slowing down a little( rember talks about moving him to safty last year) an him and his big contract will be gone next year leaving a whole that a recovering carlos rodgers will not be able to fill. then draft a dlineman in the 1st rnd, and pick up some backups/starters in free agency at other pos. wr from seattle dj hacket ,also from seattle g f wolmack ,lb boss bailey det or v hobson from the jets and either a odm or t laboy both de from the titans. but if we dont get samuel then d florence from chargers and go after coery williams dt from packers if he doesnt get franchised soon. __________________ i like pie !

02-20-2008, 02:18 PM	#23
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,152	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel A Briggs signing would spell the end of the line--or the delayed departure, of Marcus Washington. We're probably not planning on going too far foward with a 28 year old, a 32year old, and a 33 year old at linebacker. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

02-24-2008, 01:36 PM	#26
mcarey032 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 215	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel If we are not going to video tape the other teams signals and know the plays like the Patriots did, I don't want Asante Samuel. He is good player, but I don't believe that he is worth the money that he is asking for. Briggs seems like an impact player, but I don't know that I would necessarily want a player who is going to be a problem down the road about his money. Let's not forget the fact that he had an issue off the field with Drunk driving incident and then also filing a false police report.

02-24-2008, 11:52 PM	#28
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,978	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel I don't know how you're going to make Briggs work. By signing him your either saying that your switching to a 3-4 or you're giving up on Washington or Rocky. As I said in another thread the front office needs to rely on its ability to identify good players in the draft. They've done an excellent job with the picks they have had and not capitalizing on that ability is a huge waste. __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

02-24-2008, 11:53 PM	#29
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,642	Re: UFAs Briggs and Samuel asante wants 10 year 100mill, 30mill guaranteed... briggs aint worth his price either. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

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