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Old 02-19-2008, 12:18 PM   #16
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

No, Welker's a white dude.


I believe Moss would be great at that role IF he's not the #1 WR. If we get someone else like Chad Johnson, then we can use Moss on slants in the middle. We don't want to risk him if he's the #1, plus defenses will be targeting him anyways. If he's not the #1, they'll have to pay attention to someone else.

With our current roster, Randel El would be a guy to use in this role I'd think.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:27 PM   #17
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

If we get Ocho-cinco look at our receiving corps: Ocho Cinco, Santana Moss, COOOLEY, Randle El, etc. We have better receivers than New England. Not to mention I think getting ochocinco would bring the best play out of moss because he is covered less than ochocinco. That is some of the reason welker was so good this year, everyone focused on moss. Think about it, what D will be able to cover ochocinco and moss as receivers, cooley at TE, and not to mention Portis and Betts on the ground. Our offense goes from good to outstanding. Our defense could use a little work and if we do that... SUPER BOWL! GO SKINS!!!
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:32 PM   #18
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

Not even CJ would be required for us to use this strategy, just someone who can play the role of #1 WR.

Berrian, Randy Moss (not likely and I hope not), maybe even a sleeper like Bryant Johnson, D. J. Hackett or Andre Davis.

Who knows, maybe Randel El can be our #1. He certainly stepped up last season.
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If we get Ocho-cinco look at our receiving corps: Ocho Cinco, Santana Moss, COOOLEY, Randle El, etc. We have better receivers than New England. Not to mention I think getting ochocinco would bring the best play out of moss because he is covered less than ochocinco. That is some of the reason welker was so good this year, everyone focused on moss. Think about it, what D will be able to cover ochocinco and moss as receivers, cooley at TE, and not to mention Portis and Betts on the ground. Our offense goes from good to outstanding. Our defense could use a little work and if we do that... SUPER BOWL! GO SKINS!!!
If we get #85 our wr's are still NOT BETTER than NE's.

R.Moss is better than #85. R.Moss is one of the best ever and is coming off setting a record for TD catches.
Welker is better than SM or ARE
Stallworth is about the same as SM and is better than ARE
Watson is just as good as Cooley. He just doesn't get the same amount of balls thrown his way.
NE has Brady and we don't.
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If we get #85 our wr's are still NOT BETTER than NE's.

R.Moss is better than #85. R.Moss is one of the best ever and is coming of setting a record for TD passes.
Welker is better than SM or ARE
Stallworth is about the same as SM and is better than ARE
Watson is just as good as Cooley. He just doesn't get the same amount of balls thrown his way.
NE has Brady and we don't.
Would we be #2?
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:42 PM   #21
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

Stallworth is probably out the door with NE. They didn't pick up his contract and the Titans may be interested in him.

I think we'd have a better WR corp with the addition of Johnson.

CJ, Moss, ARE...plus we have quality depth in Thrash, McCardell, Caldwell and possibly Mix and/or Espy.

They'd have (the evil) Moss, Welker, but after that just Gaffney and Kelley Washington...no real depth past #2.
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

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No, Welker's a white dude.


I believe Moss would be great at that role IF he's not the #1 WR. If we get someone else like Chad Johnson, then we can use Moss on slants in the middle. We don't want to risk him if he's the #1, plus defenses will be targeting him anyways. If he's not the #1, they'll have to pay attention to someone else.

With our current roster, Randel El would be a guy to use in this role I'd think.
man buster you beat me to it but i was thinking the samething in reading all these posts..
i say RANDEL EL in the slot..
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:25 PM   #23
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

What, Welker has not even been a starter for an entire year. He started like 4 games for the Dolphins and 13 games last year. Why is everyone here jumping on Welker for one good year and that was playing with the best WR to draw double coverage and Brady throwing him the ball. He may have ran across the middle but I don't recall him taking this bounding that people are taliking about. Maybe we need to see him start more than 17 games over 4 seasons before we crown him king of the hill.
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What, Welker has not even been a starter for an entire year. He started like 4 games for the Dolphins and 13 games last year. Why is everyone here jumping on Welker for one good year and that was playing with the best WR to draw double coverage and Brady throwing him the ball. He may have ran across the middle but I don't recall him taking this bounding that people are taliking about. Maybe we need to see him start more than 17 games over 4 seasons before we crown him king of the hill.
I agree with you, most of the recent success should be credited to the system rather then the player. Dont get me wrong Welker is really good, but how good is he on an average middle of the pack team?????
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Would we be #2?
Nope.
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

Welker didn't take a pounding because he was quick to fall down before he got beaten. Graduated from the Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce School of Career Extension.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:42 PM   #27
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Welker didn't take a pounding because he was quick to fall down before he got beaten. Graduated from the Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce School of Career Extension.
Nothing wrong with that. Anytime you catch 110+ balls you've got to know when to get down and know when to try and extend the play.
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Old 02-19-2008, 01:45 PM   #28
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Re: Can Santana Moss be Wes Welker?

Let's not compare the Redskin passing attack to the Patriots. The Redskins are not in the same league as the Patriots. The Redskins only hope to be as efficient as the Patriots. The Patriots have Tom Brady, who now is arguably the best quarterback in the NFL. If you like Payton Manning or Brett Favre, I'm not going to argue with you, I respectfully disagree but Jason Campbell or Todd Collins is not in the same class. Campbell has all the potential but it hasn't been realized yet. Even if he was throwing to Randy Moss, Donte Stallworth and Wes Welker, he wouldn't put up the numbers Brady does. Hopefully under Zorn's tutelage he can develop into an effective quarterback just like Matt Hasselbeck. If the Redskins are going to dive in the free agent market, I like Bryant Johnson. I think he will be just as effective as Chad Johnson and he is younger and will be more affordable.
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Welker didn't take a pounding because he was quick to fall down before he got beaten. Graduated from the Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce School of Career Extension.
I love that comment! Being stuck here in St Louis, I know first hand how the Lambs avoid contact. I think Isaac Bruce perfected the technique and taught it to Torry Holt, who took it to another level.
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Personally, I just hope Zorn has a slant route in his offense.
Right! I agree that in 2005 we HAD to be one of the best screen teams ever. Remember the KC game? We lost but I think I remember SM taking a screen pass 70+ yards for a TD.

But, wtf, the 'Skins have run, like, 3 slant routes since JG came back. It always seemed that ARE was really good with the slant routes but IMO he's more of a slot type receiver as opposed to an outside guy.

I believe a big, tall, wideout that will actually CATCH what JC throws at him would be a godsend. Look at what Greg Jennings did for Favre this year! Didn't matter how bad the pass Favre threw was, that boy caught it anyway. That's what we need. An X-Factor type guy I guess. A big play guy. That would either free up Moss or ARE or BOTH on the outside and get Moss back to doing what he does best, smoke fools down the sidelines.
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