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Old 02-19-2008, 05:03 PM   #16
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LOL, yeah well 584 posts on this forum and I haven't been banned or benched yet. (Knock on wood)

Seriously, Kelly would be the perfect pick for Washington. He's like 6'4" tall and is a beast.
So of the big receivers available in the first round, would the consensus be that Malcolm Kelly will be better than Limas Sweed?
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Old 02-19-2008, 06:32 PM   #17
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Get A. Odom-DE from Titans, Bryant Johnson-WR from Cardinals, Bell-OL From Titans, and Kelly-DT from Raiders. then draft Lawrence Jackson or Calais Cambell in 1st round, Limas Sweed or Brandon Flowers in the 2nd round, then draft Colt Brennen or Jamall Charles in the 3rd round
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Old 02-19-2008, 07:16 PM   #18
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WRs: If Larry Fitzgerald gets cut, then snatch him, if not we should go after Bryant Johnson, Bernard Berrian, or Andre Davis (no 1st/3rd round picks for Ocho Cinco).

D-Line: UFAs like Tommy Kelly from Oakland at DT or Corey Williams from Green Bay at DT

Draft: Calais Campbell seems to have good raw talent, and he could be groomed for the D-Line. Maybe pick up some depth at CB or LB and maybe WR in later rounds.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:38 PM   #19
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So of the big receivers available in the first round, would the consensus be that Malcolm Kelly will be better than Limas Sweed?
Take it from a Horns fan. Sweed is very good. But he missed the last 7 games of the last season because he elected to have season ending surgery to be all healed up for the draft.

Then he decided to play at the Senior Bowl and re-aggravated that wrist injury.

So the question mark is whether or not he can be ready for camp.

That injury could make Sweed slip in the draft. And if his injury prevents him from performing at the combine this week, he could slip into a "late day one" round. And if a team had some patience, he could be a steal.

I still think Malcom Kelly is your guy.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:39 PM   #20
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The Perfect Offseason

Free Agents

Lance Briggs-Briggs is an upgrade from McIntosh(who won't be ready for the season due to injury). We'll need an insurance policy since Godfry is past his prime, Campbell is not starting caliber and Blades is an inside linebacker.
Earnest Wilford-Everyone is talking about needing a tall "possession" WR for our new west coast offense. Wilford has proven in Jacksonville he is that type of receiver which is better than wasting a draft pick by taking a chance on a rookie. Detroit has shown us drafting receivers is a big risk.
Bryant Johnson-Similar to Wilford, just not as good. Should be considered for the same reasons as Wilford especially if the skins are unable to sign Wilford.
John Engelberger-The skins should still draft a DE but Engelberger is a hometown hero and can provide experience, leadership, and depth to our DL. He's good at both pass rushing and run stopping and would be good in a DE rotation.
Kris Jenkins- Not officially a FA yet but it seems inevidable. The skins quietly made a run for him last year but the panthers decided they still wanted him. He is still really good a providing QB pressure of the middle but is nearing the end.
Chad Johnson- Sure he could be help us out but at what risk? This whole situation reminds me of Terrell Owens and the way he went to Dallas. He is definately good but you all know the cost and ego he will bring. This is a "Buyer Beware" situation.

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1st Round (21st Overall)-
Calais Campbell DE- He should develop into more of a monster at 6'8" 280lbs. Good a both pass rushing, run stopping and should take a lot of pressure of Andre Carter. His stock has fallen since last year and end of the season but that is because Miami had a poor season and he was the only respectable linemen there(so he was double/triple teamed constantly). It also seems fitting to draft a player from the University of Miami, FL after the death of Sean Taylor.
2nd Round-
Dre Moore DT- A hometown hero who works hard and has great speed, size and experience with no injury or character concerns.
3rd Round-
Andrew Crummy OG- Has good size and technique as well as experience. Most importantly he played along side of Stephon Heyer at Maryland so if we can get those two back together the chemistry is already built and we will have our replacements for Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen.

These are just my opinions. Would like to see what everyone thinks about them. And don't think just because I am labeled as a camp scrub by the website I don't know what I'm talking about. I've had experice playing, coaching and managing.
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Old 02-19-2008, 08:51 PM   #21
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The Perfect Offseason

Free Agents

Lance Briggs-Briggs is an upgrade from McIntosh(who won't be ready for the season due to injury). We'll need an insurance policy since Godfry is past his prime, Campbell is not starting caliber and Blades is an inside linebacker.
Earnest Wilford-Everyone is talking about needing a tall "possession" WR for our new west coast offense. Wilford has proven in Jacksonville he is that type of receiver which is better than wasting a draft pick by taking a chance on a rookie. Detroit has shown us drafting receivers is a big risk.
Bryant Johnson-Similar to Wilford, just not as good. Should be considered for the same reasons as Wilford especially if the skins are unable to sign Wilford.
John Engelberger-The skins should still draft a DE but Engelberger is a hometown hero and can provide experience, leadership, and depth to our DL. He's good at both pass rushing and run stopping and would be good in a DE rotation.
Kris Jenkins- Not officially a FA yet but it seems inevidable. The skins quietly made a run for him last year but the panthers decided they still wanted him. He is still really good a providing QB pressure of the middle but is nearing the end.
Chad Johnson- Sure he could be help us out but at what risk? This whole situation reminds me of Terrell Owens and the way he went to Dallas. He is definately good but you all know the cost and ego he will bring. This is a "Buyer Beware" situation.

Draft

1st Round (21st Overall)-
Calais Campbell DE- He should develop into more of a monster at 6'8" 280lbs. Good a both pass rushing, run stopping and should take a lot of pressure of Andre Carter. His stock has fallen since last year and end of the season but that is because Miami had a poor season and he was the only respectable linemen there(so he was double/triple teamed constantly). It also seems fitting to draft a player from the University of Miami, FL after the death of Sean Taylor.
2nd Round-
Dre Moore DT- A hometown hero who works hard and has great speed, size and experience with no injury or character concerns.
3rd Round-
Andrew Crummy OG- Has good size and technique as well as experience. Most importantly he played along side of Stephon Heyer at Maryland so if we can get those two back together the chemistry is already built and we will have our replacements for Randy Thomas and Jon Jansen.

These are just my opinions. Would like to see what everyone thinks about them. And don't think just because I am labeled as a camp scrub by the website I don't know what I'm talking about. I've had experice playing, coaching and managing.
1. Chad Johnson isn't a free agent
2. What are you going to do with all our current receivers if you're adding 3 new ones?
3. You're adding 3 new DEs, so who goes?
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1. Chad Johnson isn't a free agent
2. What are you going to do with all our current receivers if you're adding 3 new ones?
3. You're adding 3 new DEs, so who goes?
1. I realize that Chad Johnson isn't a free agent. I just thought he was worth addressing in our offseason.
2. I would cut Lloyd, Espy, Mix, maybe Thrash (depending on the receiver we add), and ask McKardell to retire as a skin
3. I'm very defensive minded person and believe you can never have enough DE's so no one goes. The less tired they are the better they can at full speed and rush the QB. I also believe with more defensive linemen (end's and tackle's) you can make more defensive line packages and call a more diverse range of stunts and ways to pressure the QB orstop the run. I also want to add these I used to play DE and these were my defense philosophies even before the Giants won the Super Bowl.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:11 PM   #23
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1. I realize that Chad Johnson isn't a free agent. I just thought he was worth addressing in our offseason.
2. I would cut Lloyd, Espy, Mix, maybe Thrash (depending on the receiver we add), and ask McKardell to retire as a skin
3. I'm very defensive minded person and believe you can never have enough DE's so no one goes. The less tired they are the better they can at full speed and rush the QB. I also believe with more defensive linemen (end's and tackle's) you can make more defensive line packages and call a more diverse range of stunts and ways to pressure the QB orstop the run. I also want to add these I used to play DE and these were my defense philosophies even before the Giants won the Super Bowl.
I am not sure why your cutting Espy and Mix, the season has not even started. Joe Gibbs said that before Espy got hurt they expected big thing out of him. At least give them a chance.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:11 PM   #24
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So you would add Wilford, Bryant Johnson, and Chad Johnson to Moss and El? Who are your starters?
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I am not sure why your cutting Espy and Mix, the season has not even started. Joe Gibbs said that before Espy got hurt they expected big thing out of him. At least give them a chance.
I guess your right. I do trust Gibbs so I'd give them a chance during OTA's and training camp but looking at their competition they're might have a hard time making a spot. I would just assume they would have been beaten out but I could be wrong.
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So you would add Wilford, Bryant Johnson, and Chad Johnson to Moss and El? Who are your starters?
CJ and Wilford at would start at wide out. Santana Moss would be free and could move to the slot where he could excel (like Wes Welker, remember the trouble he caused us). Randle El and Bryant Johnson would provide dependable depth and should be rotated in frequently. With a receiving corp like this as well as good O-line, Cooley at TE, Portis in the backfield and Campbells arm strength to go deep, we should have an offense to rival the '08 Patriots.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:26 PM   #27
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Ironic isn't it. RB's get hit about 30 times per game (at most) While lineman get hit about 50 times per game every game.
You sure that's right? RBs may not get hit as much by virtue of not playing every down like O-linemen, but they get hit usually by multiple players.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:33 PM   #28
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CJ and Wilford at would start at wide out. Santana Moss would be free and could move to the slot where he could excel (like Wes Welker, remember the trouble he caused us). Randle El and Bryant Johnson would provide dependable depth and should be rotated in frequently. With a receiving corp like this as well as good O-line, Cooley at TE, Portis in the backfield and Campbells arm strength to go deep, we should have an offense to rival the '08 Patriots.
Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.
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Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.
Well, he's producing at about the rate of a "depth" guy. 51 receptions for 728 yards and 1 touchdown?

Honestly, the Redskins could cut him and there wouldn't be that much of a difference on the field.
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Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.
You're right. Hopefully in that situation he would be willing to take a paycut. Last time I checked he had $30 million over a 6 year period. Thats a lot for a starter with his kind of production (receiver not over 1000 yards or at least 10 TDs).
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