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Old 02-19-2008, 10:38 PM   #31
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Randle El depth? Tell me again how much he is getting paid? To sit on the bench and be DEPTH!?!?!?!?!?!

Trust me I don't know the number but I can promise you it is A LOT more than "depth" should be getting paid.
You're right. Hopefully in that situation he would be willing to take a paycut. Last time I checked he had $30 million over a 6 year period. Thats a lot for a starter with his kind of production (receiver not over 1000 yards or at least 10 TDs).
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CJ and Wilford at would start at wide out. Santana Moss would be free and could move to the slot where he could excel (like Wes Welker, remember the trouble he caused us). Randle El and Bryant Johnson would provide dependable depth and should be rotated in frequently. With a receiving corp like this as well as good O-line, Cooley at TE, Portis in the backfield and Campbells arm strength to go deep, we should have an offense to rival the '08 Patriots.
Since the Santana Moss/Randle El/Brandon Lloyd experiment has pretty much been a dismal failure, I have no problems with your new wideout lineup.

Just not CJ -- he's a really expensive headache. I do like the idea of Wilford and Bryant Johnson though. Randle El can be the #4 receiver and catch punts or get released as far as I'm concerned.
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while CJ's availability is up for debate, wilford and johnson would be a total waste, since el and moss are better than either one. if you got briggs, then you bench mcintosh for basically his entire contract here, since you'll have 3 huge LB contracts.

and other's have mentioned malcolm kelly, but he'll never make it to #21.
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Since the Santana Moss/Randle El/Brandon Lloyd experiment has pretty much been a dismal failure, I have no problems with your new wideout lineup.

Just not CJ -- he's a really expensive headache. I do like the idea of Wilford and Bryant Johnson though. Randle El can be the #4 receiver and catch punts or get released as far as I'm concerned.
I don't know CJ could bring a headache, but he could also bring size, speed, entertainment (I find his TD celebrations entertaining), double teams and headaches for opposing defenses. I know he is a risk but I think the benefits outweigh the risks. T.O. was like CJ and could have brought the Cowgirls headaches but he instead brought them success. CJ could do the same for us. I wouldn't want Randle El to be released: at $30 million that would cause a huge cap penalty.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:51 PM   #35
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What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?
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while CJ's availability is up for debate, wilford and johnson would be a total waste, since el and moss are better than either one. if you got briggs, then you bench mcintosh for basically his entire contract here, since you'll have 3 huge LB contracts.

and other's have mentioned malcolm kelly, but he'll never make it to #21.
Briggs arrival wouldn't mean Rocky's being benched. McIntosh at best would be back to play a few games next year. Let him work his way back up and sign Briggs to a one year deal so he will be leaving at the time Rocky's ready to come back at full starting strength. Wilford and Johnson wouldn't be a waste. Their size and soft hands could be very useful in the redzones or when we need a clutch catch. I'm not say Moss and Randle El are better or worse but I do remember their size being an issue at one time and they each dropped some catchable balls when we really needed a big play this past season. A little depth and more options never hurt a WR corp.
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What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?
Wilford is OK. I remember him from VA Tech. Big tall and slow like all of Jacksonville's Wr's. I'd leave him alone.
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What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?
that's probably the main reason but he does have good hands, starting experience and doesn't have any injury or character issues. it's rare you get so many good traits from a WR without a huge downside, which may be his speed( but you don't have to put him on deep routes where speed is necessary, leave that to Moss).
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Briggs arrival wouldn't mean Rocky's being benched. McIntosh at best would be back to play a few games next year. Let him work his way back up and sign Briggs to a one year deal so he will be leaving at the time Rocky's ready to come back at full starting strength. Wilford and Johnson wouldn't be a waste. Their size and soft hands could be very useful in the redzones or when we need a clutch catch. I'm not say Moss and Randle El are better or worse but I do remember their size being an issue at one time and they each dropped some catchable balls when we really needed a big play this past season. A little depth and more options never hurt a WR corp.
Rocky should be ready by training camp. And Briggs isn't coming here for a one year deal. He did that last year with Chicago.
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Rocky should be ready by training camp. And Briggs isn't coming here for a one year deal. He did that last year with Chicago.
I think training camp is very optimistic for Rocky considering the injury he had. If you offer him the right price Briggs would come he for a year but it would be a ton of $$$.
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What do we like about Wilford? That he's tall?
If that was all there was to him, he'd have gone the way of Darnerian McCants.
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If that was all there was to him, he'd have gone the way of Darnerian McCants.
So what's great about him then?
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Well, I never said he was a "great" wide receiver. I'd welcome the addition of him to our roster. Though I've dismissed the importance of tall wide receivers in the past, I can see how it might give us an advantage we haven't had at the position in some time.

Above all else, the evidence points to an underperforming wideout corps in Washington for the past few years. If for no other reason that our receivers could use a shakeup, Wilford would also give Jason Campbell a target that provides great contrast to the 5-11 and under WRs he's been relegated to. Maybe Jason needs a different type of receiver to reach another level of success?
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I think training camp is very optimistic for Rocky considering the injury he had. If you offer him the right price Briggs would come he for a year but it would be a ton of $$$.
Uh...salary cap?
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Well, I never said he was a "great" wide receiver. I'd welcome the addition of him to our roster. Though I've dismissed the importance of tall wide receivers in the past, I can see how it might give us an advantage we haven't had at the position in some time.

Above all else, the evidence points to an underperforming wideout corps in Washington for the past few years. If for no other reason that our receivers could use a shakeup, Wilford would also give Jason Campbell a target that provides great contrast to the 5-11 and under WRs he's been relegated to. Maybe Jason needs a different type of receiver to reach another level of success?
Ok, I guess I was (still am) a bit unclear on what made Wilford so special that it warranted moving El down to 4th/5th on the depth chart or even off the team. What has he done in his career that Randle El hasn't?

Speaking of tall receivers, you think Billy McMullen will do anything? He's been kind of a bust so far in his career but he does have WCO experience. Personally, I'm not holding out high hopes for him. I'm on the Burl Toler bandwagon or maybe the Maurice Mann bandwagon

Seriously though, I still like Reche (though not as a #1)
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