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Old 02-20-2008, 06:48 PM   #16
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Apparently the asking price is a 2nd round pick, but given that the trade would help Detroit get salary cap space as well as compenstation for a guy they won't resign then I'd say that its possible to get him for a third round pick. Either way second or third is a small price to pay for a proven #1 WR. Especially considering that we would concievably use one of those picks on a rookie that history tells us probably won't pan out.
IMO, I would be all over that with our 2nd round pick. I know that just about everyone on here would be up in arms, but who would we get in the 2nd round that could produce like Williams? If you put Williams in an offense that had a good QB, not an average one like Kitna, he would be a monster in the NFL...
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:08 PM   #17
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Re: How about Bryant Johnson?

What about Andre Davis of the texans? the guy was money for the texans and caught everything thrown his way,especially looked good on the deep ball,plus he's a great return man also,I think he's 6'1" or 6'2" 195 .He was in a contract year and the texans cant afford to pay him more than 3rd wr money
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:09 PM   #18
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IMO, I would be all over that with our 2nd round pick. I know that just about everyone on here would be up in arms, but who would we get in the 2nd round that could produce like Williams? If you put Williams in an offense that had a good QB, not an average one like Kitna, he would be a monster in the NFL...
I don't think that many people would be up in arms. I think it would be pretty well received. Do we have good info that Williams is still on the block? I know that was the rumor a while ago, still valid?
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:17 PM   #19
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What about Andre Davis of the texans? the guy was money for the texans and caught everything thrown his way,especially looked good on the deep ball,plus he's a great return man also,I think he's 6'1" or 6'2" 195 .He was in a contract year and the texans cant afford to pay him more than 3rd wr money
Maybe the Hokie fans would be excited, but I'd say no one should pay Davis more than 3rd WR money ... since he is nothing more than a 3rd WR ...
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:33 PM   #20
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I love the thought of getting this guy. Everyone is always concerned that we need a number one reciever. I think what we need is a possession reciever, and Johnson could be that guy. It would be hard for anyone to shine, with Bolden and Fitzgerald. I also think that the Redskins recievers are very underated. Its up to Jason Campbell to improve, for them to shine.
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I don't think that many people would be up in arms. I think it would be pretty well received. Do we have good info that Williams is still on the block? I know that was the rumor a while ago, still valid?
Seems like the Lions are engaging in a "tough negotiation stance." However the way I see it, the guys pretty much there for the taking especially with the price for elite WR's set at a 4th round pick. Second Round pick should be enough to "blow them away."

All Philadelphia Sports :: Report denies Roy Williams trade rumors

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"Other news includes the rumor that Lions wide receiver Roy Williams is on the trading block, and one report said Detroit would look for a second-round pick in return. Williams played for two seasons under former Lions offensive coordinator Mike Martz, who's now with the 49ers, so would the 49ers look to make a deal for Williams?"

Should we start a Roy Williams thread, because the Bryant Johnson thread is getting jacked?
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:55 PM   #22
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We need a WR we all agree, Roy Williams, D.J. Hackett or Bryant Johnson all have good height & excellent potential whoever cost the least take that one, we need the draft picks for DL & OL
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:16 PM   #23
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williams for a 2nd is a decent idea... lets trade lloyd for a 5th.... HAHAHA *SMH*
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:37 PM   #24
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he wouldn't make a huge impact on our passing offense. not really a huge upgrade on either starting spot.
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I still like Hackett more.
i agree and he has a history with Zorn
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i agree and he has a history with Zorn

I will 3rd that notion. Big names are just that, and not willing to play their role. Hackett will play his part and leave us draft picks for other needs because lets face it we have a few. I think lineman are a top priority as JC needs to get the ball to this stud receiving corps we are all playing fantasy football in our minds with. Not to mention too many big personalities will certainly throw our team into a tailspin with our less than experienced head coach.
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I see what you are trying to say, every story has 2 sides which side is Johnsons? Here are his stats for games that he had to start for either Boldin or Fitzgerald.

FILLING IN FOR BOLDIN:
WK4 vs. PITT 4rec. 40yds. 0TD's
WK5 @ STL 6rec. 80yds. 0TD's
WK6 vs. CAR 4rec. 29yds. 0TD's
WK14 @ SEA 1rec. 5yds. 1TD

FILLING IN FOR FITZGERALD:
WK13 vs. CLE 6rec. 56yds. 1TD

And you can look up on NFL.COM for the rest of last season stats for Johnson , but the question remains...

Is he a good WR stuck behind 2 pro-bowlers, or is he nothing more than an average 3rd WR?
Math is your friend:

Those 5 games extrapolated to a 16-game season, making the assumption he'd start for 16 games, that would translate into:

67 Catches, 672 Yards, 6.4 TDs (as the #2 WR on the team, after all, either Boldin or Fitz were on the field the whole time opposite Johnson).

That's a nice possession receiver and a big RZ target, given that Moss would still be your #1 and Randle-El would look real nice in the slot. And you'd end up paying Johnson like the #3 WR on our team (he'd make less than Moss & ARE).

Seems like the perfect thing for our WCO.

Anyone who thinks we're going to magically acquire a WR not named Chad Johnson or Randy Moss, and who will put up over 1000 yards for us is delusional. Bryant Johnson would fit in real well, especially for the money.

I think DJ Hackett is capable of very similar production and is probably a better fit given familiarity with Zorn. But Johnson is exactly the kind of guy we need.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:24 AM   #28
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he wouldn't make a huge impact on our passing offense. not really a huge upgrade on either starting spot.
Impact won't be huge, and the paycheck won't be huge.

It would have the following subtle impacts:
  • Give JC a big target aside from Cooley and Sellers in the RZ. We'd actually have a WR capable of running a fade, forcing DBs to respect that route in the red zone.
  • Reduce the burden on ARE, allowing him to move to the slot more, hopefully allowing him to find more space to run after the catch.
  • Give us the 3rd WR option that Lloyd was supposed to provide us.
  • Assuming we keep Caldwell, would actually give us a 4-WR package that's worth a darn.
  • Avoid the typical 3-year learning curve that comes with drafting a WR.
Johnson or Hackett would do similar things for us, with a better learning curve with Hackett.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:29 AM   #29
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And did I mention that he (or Hackett) would add key depth for when Santana Moss will inevitably miss a few games.
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Bryant Johnson would be a great pick up for our team. I know he doesn't have huge stats but he was stuck behind Bolden and Fitz in Arizona. Everytime there was an injury he filled in more than adequetly. He has great hands, he goes across the middle, he can leap, good size, he's young, he knows the west coast system (denny green era), he wouldn't demand a huge contract, and it would free up another draft pick. I know I am going to get called a homer cause he is a Nittany Lion but he was a great college player and would really fill a need for our team.
What he did in college has nothing to do with professional football. He just hasn't shown enough to deserve a big contract. We already paid big $ to ARE and Lloyd and both have never ever shown anything to deserve it. I hope our FO is real careful chasing FA Wr's. But you know someone that has some $ to spend is going to overpay him. I hope it's not us.
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