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Old 02-21-2008, 03:50 PM   #31
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So big time free agents hit the market, the owner is willing to spend the money to get them as they fill an immediate need on the team, the coaches say no these aren't the kind of guys we are looking for, the owner and VP both say OK, they dont get signed, and this is a problem???

....it is when you get rid of the coach that was standing up to the owner.
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:55 PM   #32
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Scott Campbell is Director of Player Personnel. Both he and Cerrato are pretty experienced guys. Zorn & Blache and many of their assistants have been around the NFL for a while.

Lavar Arrington told me Snyder has put away his XBox and Madden franchise mode. I think we will be fine.

Cerrato is an idiot and he's only around becuase Snyder wants a yes man.Lavar told you,..........yeah ok how does Lavar know squat about the Skins did'nt they "cheat him out of what 6 million and now he's buddy buddy with the Danny?
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:01 PM   #33
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Re: Greg Blache stands up to Cerrato and Synder...

Every time I worry that Redskins fans are among the most ignorant in all of sports...Giantone comes along to remind me otherwise

You know he was just joking about the "LaVar told me..." don't you?
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:07 PM   #34
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Cerrato is an idiot and he's only around becuase Snyder wants a yes man.Lavar told you,..........yeah ok how does Lavar know squat about the Skins did'nt they "cheat him out of what 6 million and now he's buddy buddy with the Danny?
You sound pretty upset about this. If Cerrato is such an idiot you guys in Giant land should be laughing it up. Didn't you guys just have a big win a couple of weeks ago, you should be pretty high-on-life right now....

The Arrington reference was sarcastic referring to some prior threads......but while we're on the subject, maybe Lavar should've had an agent who actually read his contract before signing it. I'm pretty sure that's what they get their 3% for. And didn't Arrington and the team agree to a settlement on that?

Haven't we heard enough of the "Cerrato is an idiot and he's only around because Snyder wants a yes man" garbage. I don't think the guy walks on water and he has probably been responsible for bad decisions , but please define why you believe Cerrato is an idiot. Please don't say Lloyd & Archuletta, we've gone down that road already.

Cerrato does have an NCAA Championship ring and SB ring to his credit. So either he has some talent or he's real good at identifying situations which will work out well for him, either way he doesn't sound like an idiot to me. His interview the other day sounded pretty good, he seems to have a good handle on what the teams needs are.

Now he also has full responsibility for all FO moves, so if he screws up there is no shadow of Gibbs or Snyder or GW or whoever. It's on his shoulders and Snyder will be under immense pressure to fire him if the FO falls apart.
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Every time I worry that Redskins fans are among the most ignorant in all of sports...Giantone comes along to remind me otherwise

You know he was just joking about the "LaVar told me..." don't you?
OK, so it wasn't just me
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Re: Greg Blache stands up to Cerrato and Synder...

You mean Snyder really doesn't run the team with his Madden franchise?

How is he going to set the prices for hot dogs and foam fingers?
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:19 PM   #37
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You mean Snyder really doesn't run the team with his Madden franchise?

How is he going to set the prices for hot dogs and foam fingers?
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:23 PM   #38
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Cerrato is an idiot and he's only around becuase Snyder wants a yes man.Lavar told you,..........yeah ok how does Lavar know squat about the Skins did'nt they "cheat him out of what 6 million and now he's buddy buddy with the Danny?
And the Giants made that smart move and signed Lavar to how long and how much of a contract?
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:10 PM   #39
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Re: Greg Blache stands up to Cerrato and Synder...

Maybe this barely under the cap thing is a good thing. Over the past few years its forced Cerato and Synder to go after quality Free-Agents at modest prices (Fletcher and Smoot) as well as forcing us to focus on the draft. Also the idea of bringing in Drayton Florance at CB and DJ Hacket at WR seems like a pretty solid FA class to me.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:14 PM   #40
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Re: Greg Blache stands up to Cerrato and Synder...

It's not like we're the only team in the league that makes poor FA moves. Sometimes you bring a guy in and for some reason or another it just doesn't work out. My only gripe( and it would be a small one) is we have given up too much for players in the past.

However, after last year's offseason, I have full confidence Vinny and Snyder will get the job done again.
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:37 PM   #41
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SmootSmack:

OK, I understand that you don't want to get your self tarnished as a "Danny Boy Hater" on the internet. It could come back to haunt you in your career. If anyone wants to do this, they need to do this with cover. Nevertheless...

"Someone" in the Skins organization thought Patrick Ramsey was the guy to pick as the first pick the Skins had in the draft that one particular and fateful year. Let me be clear about this: Patrick Ramesy was a better pick than Jon Benet Ramsey - - but not by a whole lot. Patrick Ramsey is a great back-up QB if all you need is a guy to start 2 or 3 games while your real QB recovers from a minor injury. In addition...

"Someone" in the Skins organization also thought that Jeff George was a good idea as a QB here. When Norv Turner refused to play that sorry sack-o-sh*t, Norv lost his job. The interim coach, Terry Robiske, "made his own decision" to start George at QB and the Skins didn't exactly run the table for the rest of that season.

The next year, Marty Schottenheimer could not abide by Jeff George's refusal to run the offense that the team had set for itself, so Marty cut George in mid-season. Since that day, Jeff George has not taken a snap in the NFL.

So, who was the "Someone" responsible for inflicting Jeff George on the Redskins and Redskins' fans?

Danny Boy
Vinnie
My Cousin Vinnie
My Three Sons
Three Dog Night
Snoop Dog
Underdog
Doggy Dooty
Augie Doggie
Doggie Daddy

You make the call...
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Old 02-21-2008, 11:54 PM   #42
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OK, I understand that you don't want to get your self tarnished as a "Danny Boy Hater" on the internet. It could come back to haunt you in your career. If anyone wants to do this, they need to do this with cover. Nevertheless...

"Someone" in the Skins organization thought Patrick Ramsey was the guy to pick as the first pick the Skins had in the draft that one particular and fateful year. Let me be clear about this: Patrick Ramesy was a better pick than Jon Benet Ramsey - - but not by a whole lot. Patrick Ramsey is a great back-up QB if all you need is a guy to start 2 or 3 games while your real QB recovers from a minor injury. In addition...

"Someone" in the Skins organization also thought that Jeff George was a good idea as a QB here. When Norv Turner refused to play that sorry sack-o-sh*t, Norv lost his job. The interim coach, Terry Robiske, "made his own decision" to start George at QB and the Skins didn't exactly run the table for the rest of that season.

The next year, Marty Schottenheimer could not abide by Jeff George's refusal to run the offense that the team had set for itself, so Marty cut George in mid-season. Since that day, Jeff George has not taken a snap in the NFL.

So, who was the "Someone" responsible for inflicting Jeff George on the Redskins and Redskins' fans?

Danny Boy
Vinnie
My Cousin Vinnie
My Three Sons
Three Dog Night
Snoop Dog
Underdog
Doggy Dooty
Augie Doggie
Doggie Daddy

You make the call...
Mudgy Boy, I know you don't want to tarnish your reputation as a bitter, cranky, depressed, pessimistic complainer.

I never said Snyder was flawless. Of course, he's made mistakes. Most were years ago. But that's neither here nor there. All I said was that the notion that he never listens to the coaches is an extremely idiotic thing to say. I would think that you're smart enough to realize that, but if you want to just limit your argument to Ramsey and George then I have greatly overestimated you and regret having led a campaign here to have your sports blog named the best sports blog on the Web.

(apologies to everyone else, Mudge Pack has a way of bringing out the worst in me. His half-empty, break glass, use the shards to slice your wrists mentality tends to get to me)
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Old 02-22-2008, 12:21 AM   #43
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....it is when you get rid of the coach that was standing up to the owner.
Do you mean Greg Blache? Because he's still with the team.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:19 AM   #44
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SmootSmack:

I am not limited to Jeff George and Patrick Ramsey. Recall that "Someone" around here thought Bruce Smith needed to be in DC and to be a starter on the DL even when the coaches recognized that Smith was a hollow shell of his former self. That wasn't me - - or you - - or a dog named blue...

By the way, the QB who had to be kicked to the curb to make room for Jeff George was Brad Johnson. Johnson went on to bee a "Super Bowl QB" soon after the Skins got rid of him. Unless I was in a coma, Jeff George never made it to a Super Bowl without buying a ticket. And neither did Patrick Ramsey... Or did I miss something?

I do need to thank you for helping me win the honor of best sports blog for 2007. My time in Las Vegas with people seeking content providers for a variety of sports outlets was very enjoyable and potentially profitable - - maybe sufficiently profitable that I can fold the small management consulting company that my wife and I run.

However, I think the real reason I won that "contest" is because a lot of people recognized that I point out the illogic and the inconsistancies and the sillinesses that happen all over the sporting landscape - - not just with the Redskins or the NFL. Here on the Warpath, I only get to point out the foibles of the Redskins' FO and coaches and players when they stink in spades. It happens here; but trust me, it happens elsehwere too. In fact, I probably don't rag on the Redskins more than 1% of the time in my Internet rants because there is so much other material to deal with that is so much more outrageous.

Some folks here - - not you - - have suggested that I hate Danny Boy and/or Vinnie Boombatz. That is simply not the case. In order to hate someone, that person has to be a monstrous individual [Adolf Hitler, John Wayne Gacy. Jeffrey Dahmer] or one has to know the person directly to recognize the hateful aspects of his/her being.

For the record, I have never met Vinnie Cerrato unless I was in such a state of insobriety that I didn't realize to whom I was introduced. I have been in the same room with Daniel Snyder once - as part of a throng of people - and I shook his hand for all of three seconds. He does not know me - and surely does not want to know me; I do not know him - and have no desire to be one of the folks who takes pride in orbiting around his presence. I tell you this to demonstrate that I do not know either of these men, so I cannot hate either of them.
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Old 02-22-2008, 01:51 AM   #45
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I don't think you get the point still, but that's fine. You are how you are. Good luck to you.
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