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Old 03-03-2008, 12:25 PM   #16
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I think at this point BR is more than just a game manager. He put up some gaudy numbers last year.

32 TDs vs 11 INTs.
3,154 yards
104.1 QB rating.
65.3 completion %.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:07 PM   #17
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Many of those passes and TDs came down big towards the end of the season after Willie went down and they had no running attack. Not to take anything away from him just think his best days are behind him.
He's 26.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:10 PM   #18
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Roethlisberger's QB rating is certainly inflated by the fact that he threw a very high percentage of the team's total TD's, but he's 26, and is due to continue improving.
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:10 PM   #19
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Many of those passes and TDs came down big towards the end of the season after Willie went down and they had no running attack. Not to take anything away from him just think his best days are behind him.
Umm, Parker got hurt in week 16.

Best days are behind him? Dude just turned 26. LOL
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:43 PM   #20
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Though I wouldn't say he's a top 5 QB, he's irreplaceable to the Steelers, because all the QBs better than him are already locked up (Manning, Brady, Brees, Romo, Bulger), or are on their Rookie deal and in no danger of hitting the market (Rivers...and maybe one day Cutler/Leinart/Quinn/Campbell).

This is the going rate of a franchise QB these days, and while Campbell probably won't command as much money as Roethlisberger in 2009, we are going to have to pay him like a franchise QB.
I'm not 100% sure I agree that Romo is necessarily better. I think his receivers are far superior, but I don't know that he's better. Outside of the season after the accident, when Big Ben was hurt, he's shown me more than Romo. I think Romo is a very, very good player and he is a more special player, he makes a lot more mistakes than I would want. As many of you know, I live with a Boys fan, so I saw a lot of his games, I think Romo is very good, but I believe that Big Ben is a better all around passer.
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Many of those passes and TDs came down big towards the end of the season after Willie went down and they had no running attack. Not to take anything away from him just think his best days are behind him.
So their RB goes down and teams now know he has to throw the ball and he racks up allot of big numbers. Are you sure your argument is that he is not very good because your point makes his stats look even better.
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Old 03-03-2008, 03:24 PM   #22
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I think he meant after Parker went down, Roethlisberger's stats went down as well.
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I think he meant after Parker went down, Roethlisberger's stats went down as well.
The game that Parker went down Roethlisberger was 16/20 for 261 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs. He didn't play in week 17.

In their playoff loss to Jax he was 29/42 for 337 yards, 2 TD, 3 INT.

I don't think we have enough of a sample to say whether losing Parker hurt him or not.
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I think he meant after Parker went down, Roethlisberger's stats went down as well.
Yea after I read his post I think your right.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:45 PM   #25
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Big, Strong and really hard to bring down.....Oh yeah, and he can throw the ball. It's a big contact, but I think he's worth it.
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I am unsure as to why there are so many people speaking poorly of Big Ben. When he first came out, I thought he was overrated, but this year, he really showed me a lot.
In case some of you guys have missed it, he threw for 32 tds (rushed for 2) and had only 11 int's. He also had a 65.3% completion percentage, and not to mention he already has a super bowl ring. The Steelers were smart to get this guy locked up for 8 years.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:49 PM   #27
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I think it's just one person speaking poorly
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FYI- Ben vs the elite teams in the league last year:
Dallas, 193 yards, 2 tds, 0 int.
N.E., 196 yards, 2 tds, 0 int.
Jax, 221 yards, 2 tds, 0 int.

not bad.
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Old 03-03-2008, 06:53 PM   #29
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I think it's just one person speaking poorly
Maybe "poorly" is too harsh a word, but there were 3 total:
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:51 PM   #30
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If Ben isn't a top 5 qb in this league who is ahead of him? He is coming off a season in which, I believe, he was the second highest rated passer in the league, second only to the most prolific season in NFL history. There are guys who are close like Hasselbeck perhaps, but an argument placing Ben in the top 3-5 qb's is very plausible.

I think with Ben people exhibit a knee-jerk reaction to a guy they believe to be a game manager without really taking a step back to examine the poor level of quarterback play in the league right now, and how much better the big guy is than most of the competition. To the doubters, go through each NFL team and look at their quarterback situation, then see if you still feel Ben is not worth top 3 money.
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