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Old 08-15-2004, 03:34 PM   #1
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Did Spurrier Ruin Ramsey?

Everyone has noted that neither QB has looked good in practice or the games to this point, but particularly alarming to me is the number of fumbled snaps by Ramsey.. Is he still suffering from shell shock as a result of the beating he got last year and is so anxious to pull back from center that he is leaving too early? Maybe Joe Crisp or others can weigh in since he saw most of the 1st week of camp.
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Old 08-15-2004, 03:48 PM   #2
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Well if he did I would think Gibbs and Co and save him.
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Old 08-15-2004, 03:53 PM   #3
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Hrm, he made great throws last year. Now they're changing the mechanics he learned under spurrier and he's floundering. Who ruined who?
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Old 08-15-2004, 04:01 PM   #4
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It's way too early to judge any of the QB's performances thus far. They've all had their problems, so it's a little unfair to Ramsey to just point the finger at him.
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Old 08-15-2004, 04:33 PM   #5
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I think Ramsey will be OK. He is pressing right now. He knows he has a vet going for his job and Gibbs like for the vet! Sometimes young guys need to fall and learn to trust the coach and system. Joe T had the same problem if you remember! The O line is the key. They need a can of whip ass!!! Run over people...blow them off the line and all of the other thing will fall in place!
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Old 08-15-2004, 04:45 PM   #6
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Well I think RedskinPete pretty much said it. It's about trust. Ramsey has to trust that this new system is in fact designed to protect him and he doesn't have to feel rushed to make a play.
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Old 08-15-2004, 04:55 PM   #7
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Smoot I watched the game on the NFL network today. It did look like Ramsey was rushing his passes and looking down the receivers. For the most part the protection was there. He needs to go to his check off when he has no play...RB or TE. The fact of the matter maybe it just may take time with him. Joe T was not that hot with GIbbs the first year!
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Old 08-15-2004, 05:17 PM   #8
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I know Ramsey got killed because of Spurrier, but I think Gibbs can help him back and it may take some time. This is why we got Brunnell, which I know is not popular with many here. Even I questioned it.
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Old 08-15-2004, 06:30 PM   #9
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He's a 3rd year guy learning a whole new system with an entirely different philosophy. He's had to relearn how to read a defense, it's going to take time for his game to come together.

Brunell should come around much quicker than Ramsey. Once he get settled into the offense he'll be fine.
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Old 08-15-2004, 06:54 PM   #10
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one of the snaps as has been said, was early, that was lennie freidman's fault (i think that was the center at the time)... I saw it, and the center started moving foward without really releasing the ball, it was really bad...
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Old 08-15-2004, 10:43 PM   #11
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I think this is like another rookie year for Ramsey. he has never really had to learn or run a pro system like the one gibbs runs. For all intents and purposes ramsey has run a college system for the last seven years.
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Old 08-16-2004, 12:06 AM   #12
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For all intents and purposes ramsey has run a college system for the last seven years.
Well said.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:22 AM   #13
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Agreed. Give the kid time. He was rushed in by Spurrier, but he'll be fine. If anyone can get him right, it's Gibbs and co.

Again, it's only August 16.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:41 AM   #14
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I wish Ramsey would stop trying to copy Peyton Manning and feel the need to audible every time he lines up to take the snap. It usually does more damage than good
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:52 AM   #15
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Angry Friedman sucks

Do you remember him getting ran over every play against Dallas last year.
Why doesn't Raymer Have the starting job yet?
Friedman doesn't even belong in the NFL! Let alone a starting line up.
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