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Old 03-17-2008, 01:29 PM   #31
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Updated - Scout.com's Adam Caplan reports the Panthers and WR D.J. Hackett have reached agreement on a two-year, $3.5 million contract.
I can't believe we were not prepared to beat a 2 year 3.5 mil deal. So we must have offered pretty much the vet minimum...why even bring him in? He's not worth crying about but he would have been nice to have at those numbers.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:34 PM   #32
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Good Deal! Now we can move on to bigger and better receivers.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:36 PM   #33
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Malcolm Kelly (and Limas Sweed) are good values at 21st overall...
kelly probably wont be there and i think sweed would be a big mistake. that and the DE talent takes a nose dive once merling and harvey are gone.


i'm really surprised we didn't even offer 2mill per... he's a much better #3 than caldwell.
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Old 03-17-2008, 01:45 PM   #34
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I think Carolina stole him. I cant believe we did get him for that kind of money.
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Disappointing, but if Zorn didn't make a SERIOUS push to bring him in it could signal there's something more to him than we're seeing..
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For those saying 1st round WR's are risky or take too long to develop (of whom I have been one - on both counts), a reminder of something I just recalled:

"With the 18th Selection in the 1980 Draft, the Redskins select Art Monk."

While risky, if the pick is good, it can be a real payoff - most of the truly top flight WR's have been chosen in the first round (NFL Draft History: Full Draft - by Position).

True some top tier WR's are chosen in later rounds (S. Smith, C. Johnson, T.J. Who'syour mama, T. Owens, A. Boldin). A significant number (I would suggest, substantial majority) of true top flight WR's are 1st Round choices (R. Moss, M. Harrison, R. Wayne, Braylon Edwards, L. Fitzgerald, P. Burress, I could go on...).

As with most things in the draft, WR is a crap shoot. In the year of Monk's induction, I am officially switching to the "pick a WR in round one" band wagon in hopes that the good karma train is rolling our way.

As for Hackett, more power to him. I vote "good call" by the FO.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:01 PM   #37
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Malcolm Kelly (and Limas Sweed) are good values at 21st overall...
I dont agree any WR is a good value in the 1st round in general, and based on the Skins needs....I will be disappointed if we invest anything higher than a 5th rounder on one.

I dont like WR draft pick crap shoots...lets use top picks on both lines and CB
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #38
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If this turns out to be accurate, the folks in Seattle & Zorn must not be very impressed, even though he put up some good numbers when healthy. Or there's a lot more to the recurring ankle injury.
This has to be the case. Two teams with direct experience with the guy can't pony up more than 3.5 over 2 years? That makes you wonder really.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #39
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In the year of Darrell Green's induction, I'm officially on the "pick a CB in the first round" bandwagon...

Seriously though, while I think it will probably be a CB or WR in the first round I'm leaning toward a DT or DE. I'm just glad it's not something I really have to worry about. I can see why we like trading our picks. This is stressful stuff.
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I'm not sure how I feel about this....we can draft a WR, but a rookie wideout is not going to contribute right away, and we're not rebuilding. I really hope this doesn't mean we're going to trade for a WR, b/c we need our picks to add depth to other areas of need. WR was really the only area we needed to address with FA. I guess now we'll see if crowd-favorite Anthony Mix lives up to the hype. I'm also counting on the fact that maybe Zorn will not be as conservative as Gibbs, and give him the same freedom Gibbs gave to Collins on the offense.
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For those saying 1st round WR's are risky or take too long to develop (of whom I have been one - on both counts), a reminder of something I just recalled:

"With the 18th Selection in the 1980 Draft, the Redskins select Art Monk."

While risky, if the pick is good, it can be a real payoff - most of the truly top flight WR's have been chosen in the first round (NFL Draft History: Full Draft - by Position).

True some top tier WR's are chosen in later rounds (S. Smith, C. Johnson, T.J. Who'syour mama, T. Owens, A. Boldin). A significant number (I would suggest, substantial majority) of true top flight WR's are 1st Round choices (R. Moss, M. Harrison, R. Wayne, Braylon Edwards, L. Fitzgerald, P. Burress, I could go on...).

As with most things in the draft, WR is a crap shoot. In the year of Monk's induction, I am officially switching to the "pick a WR in round one" band wagon in hopes that the good karma train is rolling our way.

As for Hackett, more power to him. I vote "good call" by the FO.

I wonder if this is because so many picks have been used on WRs in the first round more than anything. I definitely would say though that the fact that most good WR were first rounders is irrelevant to the point that a high percentage of first round WRs have been busts. Of course that can be said about just about any position.

One thing to note though is that in general even the really good or great WRs weren't great right away. Even guys like CJ, Burress, and TO spent a couple yaers just being OK. They all took off after a couple years.

I'd much rather we sign FAs at the WR spot where we knw what we are getting and pick linemen that are generally safer picks.
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Seriously though, while I think it will probably be a CB or WR in the first round I'm leaning toward a DT or DE. I'm just glad it's not something I really have to worry about. I can see why we like trading our picks. This is stressful stuff.
Assuming we o get the xtra third we end up with 4 "old school" first day picks and done correctly we should get 4 starters out of that. I think one each of dline, oline, cb and wr is what we are potentially looking at.

It may be tough to find a starting level cb or dline in the second round though. As for WR and Oline we should definteily be able to find those come round 3. I think I'd go Dline, CB, WR, Oline but of course it really all depends on so many variables not the least of which is what players are avaiable when we pick.
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I wonder if this is because so many picks have been used on WRs in the first round more than anything. I definitely would say though that the fact that most good WR were first rounders is irrelevant to the point that a high percentage of first round WRs have been busts. Of course that can be said about just about any position.

One thing to note though is that in general even the really good or great WRs weren't great right away. Even guys like CJ, Burress, and TO spent a couple yaers just being OK. They all took off after a couple years.

I'd much rather we sign FAs at the WR spot where we knw what we are getting and pick linemen that are generally safer picks.
Generally, I agree with your sentiments. Recognizing that even the good WR's don't make an immediate impact, to me, actually strengthens the need for us to address it sooner rather than later. The idea that UFA WR's give us something "we know what we are getting" does not strike me as necessarily true e.g. Lloyd and ARE (Is ARE a solid number 2? I would argue that we are entering the third year of his deal and the jury is still out on that).

I don't see us getting a game changer by trade or UFA. Plus, a 1st round WR would be the 3rd time since Monk and, of course, the 3rd time's a charm (Westbrook, Gardner) (D. Howard doesn't count he was KR - Yeah! that's the ticket!).

Again, generally, I agree with your sentiment. But, I think it's time to take another shot. If we do our homework, get a little lucky, we could be set for a long time. If not, if it gives us something to bitch about.
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Generally, I agree with your sentiments. Recognizing that even the good WR's don't make an immediate impact, to me, actually strengthens the need for us to address it sooner rather than later. The idea that UFA WR's give us something "we know what we are getting" does not strike me as necessarily true e.g. Lloyd and ARE (Is ARE a solid number 2? I would argue that we are entering the third year of his deal and the jury is still out on that).

I don't see us getting a game changer by trade or UFA. Plus, a 1st round WR would be the 3rd time since Monk and, of course, the 3rd time's a charm (Westbrook, Gardner) (D. Howard doesn't count he was KR - Yeah! that's the ticket!).

Again, generally, I agree with your sentiment. But, I think it's time to take another shot. If we do our homework, get a little lucky, we could be set for a long time. If not, if it gives us something to bitch about.

I'm tired of having things to btich about, I want to be able to tell a cowboy fan, giants fan, patriots fan, and colts fan that they suck, cus we won the superbowl. That's all i want.
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