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Old 03-20-2008, 10:48 AM   #46
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How do you figure?? springs can can tackle very well, and he's pretty big. He's slower, so he would be better at SS right now in his career. Plus he's not better than landry at FS
Springs is a great tackler, but I'm not sure we'd be getting the most bang for our buck by switching our best cover corner to strong safety. Besides, do you think Springs would hold up to the physical punishment he'd endure as a strong safety. Strong safeties are, after all, oftentimes in the box and getting nailed by offensive linemen and Springs is fairly injury prone.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:25 PM   #47
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Springs is a great tackler, but I'm not sure we'd be getting the most bang for our buck by switching our best cover corner to strong safety. Besides, do you think Springs would hold up to the physical punishment he'd endure as a strong safety. Strong safeties are, after all, oftentimes in the box and getting nailed by offensive linemen and Springs is fairly injury prone.
Don't get me wrong, I know he is injury prone, and I was only saying that would have made sens if we went after hall. Then we could have rotated springs/doughty at the SS position depending on what down it is and etc.

But then when Doughty is in at SS, Springs could go in as CB and play as well.

I was just speculating, that's all. And as far as my debate about is springs good enough to play SS? IMO, Yes he is, and he has HAD injury issues but if we had got Hall, rotating springs/doughty would have kept springs healthier as well as helped us in certain packages.

Now, I know we need Springs as CB1 for us this year, because of Carlos' injury. Smoot had inpressed me especially as the year went on. I think Smoot will be FINE at CB2 this year while Rogers is being worked into the line-up as the nickle-CB. Then eventually he and Smoot will switch, with Smoot becoming out Nickle/CB3.

I see us drafting a CB in either the 1st, or second, but you can't RELY on that CB to make an impact instantly.(you can hope) But hopefully we make a great pick and by the 4th or 5th game of the season the rookie will have stepped-up and will be a majot part of our secondary.

We have Torrence,and Eubanks who are promising depth IMO. We haven't had young players as depth in our secondary in a LONG time. This is way better than having Ade Jimoh and CO. back there. Leigh Torrence stepped up last year admirably when he was asked to ,and Eubanks looks like he's young and promising. Hopefully our secondary will become one of our strenghts and hopefully we will be able to trade away some players for draft picks if they get good enough someday. ( Torrence, Eubanks )
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:50 AM   #48
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How do you figure?? springs can can tackle very well, and he's pretty big. He's slower, so he would be better at SS right now in his career. Plus he's not better than landry at FS
How do i figure what?

I simply disagree with you're idea that Redskins should or would consider moving Shawn Springs to SS.

-moving from corner to safety is not like switching from outside linebacker to inside linebacker its an entirely different postion

- very few NFL corners attempt to make the switch from corner to safety and fewer succeed (if it were so simple most corners that lose a step would simply switch to FS)

-normally a team moves a corner to safety when the player can't play corner at a high enough level---Springs is our best corner

-If a corner was to move to safety, FS would be the choice b/c its more coverage focused; A SS primary responsibilty is run support, playing in the 'box' almost like a linebacker, Although Springs tackles well for a corner he would struggle with strong side run stopper

These are the reason why i 'figure' Spring shouldn't move SS; also relax with the questions marks (??), its annoying.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:30 AM   #49
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You know, I hate to say this, but.... I will anyway. I love Clinton Portis. He is a TRUE Redskin. Personality, likeable, and hard working. I just think we shouldn't have traded Champ for him. With a good offensive line, any runner can have good years. Not saying Clinton hasn't been a godsend, it's just that it seems like ever since we let Champ get traded, we've always been a weaker secondary. He was probably (don't flame me) the best CB we've ever had, or at least top 3. I REALLY don't care if you flame me, but he WAS BETTER than DG. No question. Coverage was WAY better than DG. Ever since Champ, I've felt like holding my breath on every pass play. When ST started playing, I felt safer, but Champ was great. Sorry, rambling on.


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I call it like I see it.. Does "Clown" hurt your feelings? You are acting like you know enough on chris long to say he is overrated, yet you dont bring any kind of real arguement to the table. It reminded me of a little kid who refuses to try or like anything because he has already formed an opinion that it wont be good. You ask the little kid why he doesnt like it? and he says " because, I dont wanna". That's about par.

YET, you highlight my words, and sarcasticly agree with what I said. ( which I was just making a point, I never once said that was the main reason we shouldnt get PP ) I just added that everyone in ExtremeSkins.com thinks the same way I do. Get over yourself pimp.
Hey buddy, I see that you are kind of new here. But, if you want to carry on an intelligent debate about things, please be don't rude and childish with name calling. We here at The Warpath are above that "juvie junk". We can have differences of opinion and still be respectful because that is the courteous thing to do.

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Old 03-22-2008, 07:36 AM   #51
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No worries pal. Even though your politics are a little suspect, you're still cool with me dmek25.
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You know, I hate to say this, but.... I will anyway. I love Clinton Portis. He is a TRUE Redskin. Personality, likeable, and hard working. I just think we shouldn't have traded Champ for him. With a good offensive line, any runner can have good years. Not saying Clinton hasn't been a godsend, it's just that it seems like ever since we let Champ get traded, we've always been a weaker secondary. He was probably (don't flame me) the best CB we've ever had, or at least top 3. I REALLY don't care if you flame me, but he WAS BETTER than DG. No question. Coverage was WAY better than DG. Ever since Champ, I've felt like holding my breath on every pass play. When ST started playing, I felt safer, but Champ was great. Sorry, rambling on.


Not to mention now that LL has emerged, I can breathe again. Go LaRon Taylor!
What does that have to do with anything, if this a thread about Pierson Prioleau, then why are you talking about how you didn't want to trade for him, it doesn't make any sense.
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No worries pal. Even though your politics are a little suspect, you're still cool with me dmek25.
hahaha. i could say the same about you anyway, thanks again
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