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Old 08-16-2004, 08:25 PM   #16
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he might need to ditch his lax attitude and crappy supporting staff in order to do so...
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:18 AM   #17
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In top flight organizations only the HC is supposed to make the cuts and signing? The HC Steve Spurrier was did not strike me as being interested in personel matters or special teams or defence or the offensive line or making game plans to counter specific changes or to make changes to his own system to counter the problem that it was exposed from week three onwards.

Also in the year Steve Spurrier did have full control over personel moves on offence we picked up such jems as Danny W, Shane Mathews, J Green, Anthoney etc etc. So Armstead is upset it takes a real las guy to take a pop at a team who simply wants to go in another direction at the position.
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:04 AM   #18
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The obvious take on that entire article is SOUR GRAPES. Jesse just wants to attack Snyder because he was dumped. What a bunch of pure crap. Spurrier was a complete joke of a head coach. Believe me, if this stuff had gone down as he says, it would be all over the league, and Spurrier would be given other opportunities. Let's watch all the NFL offers pour in for the ol' ball coach.
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:26 AM   #19
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It's nice to see that all of you were in the locker room and know all about Spurrier!

Spurrier wanted to divide work up with everyone. He thought that the O line coach specializes in O line so he lets the O line coach do his thing. So on and so on. That Guy was completely correct in saying he needs a new coaching staff to succeed. If Spurrier had the coaching staff we have now we would have been in the playoff's last year.

Believe me, there weren't exactly a ton of openings this off season. Jim Fassel was demoted to Offensive Coordinator of perhaps the worst overall offenses in football.

I want to see what happens when Wandstat is fired. Spurrier may get a shot in his native Florida with a semi-patient owner/fan base. He had 2 years, hardly enough time to turn the ship around. More wins than Jimmy Johnson and Bellicheck in their first two years.

As far as bringing in Florida guys, you're right. I mean, who does that? Oh, EVERYONE. Parcells, Bellicheck, Jimmy Johnson, and so on. You bring in players that are famillier with you and your system. It's how the game works.
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:40 PM   #20
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It's nice to see that all of you were in the locker room and know all about Spurrier! ... It's how the game works.
No offense, Daseal, but you did not have to be in the locker room to see what kind of coach Spurrier was. His NFL teams were the most ill-prepared, poorly coached I have ever seen. I was not in the locker room with Gibbs or Lombardi (or even Landry for that matter), but their teams were very obviously well-coached. Constant, ongoing problems with idiotic penalties like the Redskins were making is ALWAYS a SURE sign of bad coaching. He was never able to adjust to handle the blitzes, so more and more came at him. His blocking schemes looked like a fire drill. Don't wait for him to get his next NFL coaching job. There is absolutely no possibility of that happening. But he will surely coach college again, where he is one of the best. What is the difference? There are many. One of the most important is the fact that every college defense he faces has strong weaknesses, especially when numerous DB's have to be on the field. His passing strategy floods the defensive backfield with WR's and exploits the weak DB(s). And college defenses are not anywhere near the sophistication of the Pros. I did feel bad for Spurrier last year. It was obvious he was totally miserable. And that is another reason he will not be back in the NFL. He will stick with the game where he knows he will succeed, and be happy.
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:21 PM   #21
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how many press conferences did we see where the game was filled with mistakes and all spurrier did was say "well...the players are professionals and they know what they did wrong so its up to them to work on it and fix it..." and then he leaves to go play golf. As a head coach you want good assistants, but there job is not to do everything and then you call the plays on game day.
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:30 PM   #22
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Spurrier will be back coaching college where he belongs........
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:50 PM   #23
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Look no further then when Jansen was asked about the gameplans the last two years and he basically said there were no gameplans.

I have no problem with a coach delegating duties, all coaches do it, but the head coach is still the one who's ultimately responsible. I think it's quite telling the team regressed so much after Marvin Lewis left, I wonder who was really running the show that first season.

I don't think Spurrier will come back to the NFL. He left with his tail between his legs, he knew he was overmatched at this level. If he comes back I would be very surprised.
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:53 PM   #24
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ya never know though, he might be sitting at home doing nothing but trying to devise plays and learn how to be a real coach. Mabye he should have taken a year off to get all his golfing in so he wouldlnt have to play so much during the season...lol
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Old 08-17-2004, 06:53 PM   #25
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with marvin our defense was 5th overall i believe, without him - 25th...
he was a bit mad he didn't get offered the head job here, but he's proven he belongs by turning the BENGALS??? into winners... however, we ended up with gibbs this way, and if marvin were head coach, he might be coaching in atlanta, so i'm a bit thankful for that, but not too much.
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:48 PM   #26
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It's nice to see that all of you were in the locker room and know all about Spurrier!

Spurrier wanted to divide work up with everyone. He thought that the O line coach specializes in O line so he lets the O line coach do his thing. So on and so on. That Guy was completely correct in saying he needs a new coaching staff to succeed. If Spurrier had the coaching staff we have now we would have been in the playoff's last year.

Believe me, there weren't exactly a ton of openings this off season. Jim Fassel was demoted to Offensive Coordinator of perhaps the worst overall offenses in football.

I want to see what happens when Wandstat is fired. Spurrier may get a shot in his native Florida with a semi-patient owner/fan base. He had 2 years, hardly enough time to turn the ship around. More wins than Jimmy Johnson and Bellicheck in their first two years.

As far as bringing in Florida guys, you're right. I mean, who does that? Oh, EVERYONE. Parcells, Bellicheck, Jimmy Johnson, and so on. You bring in players that are famillier with you and your system. It's how the game works.
For my previous job, I was in fact in the locker room and around Redskins Park often. And Spurrier, who I think has the tangible skills to succeed, had the mentality of someone who simply did not want to be with the Redskins let alone anywhere in the DC area. Say what you will about Marty but he was involved in every aspect of the organization, he cared about what was going on and he truly wanted to make an impact. At least that's the impression I got being around him. I, and many others, simply did not get that feeling from Spurrier.

As for him being successful if he had the coaching staff we had now. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Spurrier had the staff he wanted, it's not like he said I want X coaches and he got Z coaches.

Much respect though to Daseal for standing by his man
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:54 PM   #27
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why i say that is because the people he wanted and the people he needed were two different things. If he had a greg williams (and his support staff), we could have probably done 8-8 last year... snyder stepped in after the first year and started firing people SS wanted to keep though, and that's never a good thing.
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:57 PM   #28
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Who'd he fire? Not trying to be confrontational. I honestly don't remember. Been a long day
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Actually, in preseason 2, Snyder made the famous move of dropping Watson and the QB, both of whom Spurrier wanted (Watson was the only RB on the team that could pick up blitzes). But I don't recall Snyder "firing" anyone. He should have fired the S/T and OL coaches and the Def/Coord, but did not. As I understand it, that is what was happening after year 2 that caused SS to hit the road. Great move by Snyder.
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Old 08-18-2004, 12:26 AM   #30
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Actually, in preseason 2, Snyder made the famous move of dropping Watson and the QB, both of whom Spurrier wanted (Watson was the only RB on the team that could pick up blitzes). But I don't recall Snyder "firing" anyone. He should have fired the S/T and OL coaches and the Def/Coord, but did not. As I understand it, that is what was happening after year 2 that caused SS to hit the road. Great move by Snyder.
That actually goes back to the whole issue of Spurrier repeatedly refusing to go to front office meetings because he was just there to "coach football" So when a player personnel move was made he'd be in shock, but it's not like he wasn't given the opportunity to state his case
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