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Old 06-13-2008, 10:55 PM   #46
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Re: Saints After Shockey?!

Possibly the end of the road in NY for Shockey...?

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Old 06-14-2008, 10:30 PM   #47
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IMHO............I think it is the end of Shockey and the Giants.People are tired of his me,me,me attitude.I won't do this or that...yeah I still believe he is the best overall TE in the game but he can't stay healthy and Eli seems to do better without him in his face.I say Send him to Cinncy for a draft pick,keep him out of the NFC and but him somewhere cold!:cheeky-sm
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:18 PM   #48
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i don't know how anyone could says he's the best with gates, winslow, and gonzo around.

hell, in the nfc east, i'd taken cooley or witten over him any day. his attitude is part of his game, and it doesn't make him a better player.
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i don't know how anyone could says he's the best with gates, winslow, and gonzo around.

hell, in the nfc east, i'd taken cooley or witten over him any day. his attitude is part of his game, and it doesn't make him a better player.
I think if you're going to argue that Shockey is the best Tight End is the league your best chance of winning is arguing that when healthy Shockey is the most athletically gifted Tight End in the league, the Giants just don't use him properly but yeah, call me a Larry Michael I mean homer, but I'd take Cooley over Shockey any day.
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Old 06-15-2008, 09:16 AM   #50
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If you read what I said ,I said "Over All",the others are good at one thing or the other.Right now I too would take Cooley...Shockey is a head case.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:27 AM   #51
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It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't!
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It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't!
I'm not sure how well that take holds up anymore considering he won a Super Bowl.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:55 AM   #53
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4 full pages, and no one wants him here? ( at vet minimum, of course)
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I'm not sure how well that take holds up anymore considering he won a Super Bowl.
It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck.
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It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck.
The two second half drives against us in week 3 that led to TDs weren't luck. All thos eroad wins last season weren't luck. Don't let your hate for the Giants cloud your judgement. Eli is a very good QB. I admit I was totally wrong about him. He has all the tools to be a HOFer.
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It holds up very well. Eli got lucky! I mean, that dude catching the ball on his head! Come on, that was complete luck.
Not really.

Consider how well he played throughout the playoffs and don't boil things down to one play. Even then I wouldn't call it luck, he did a great job at escaping the rush and keeping the play alive to just get the throw off.
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Shockey for Chad Johnson trade?
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^It would solve problems for both teams (and create new ones).
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:11 AM   #59
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He also led the league with 20 ints in the regular season, and had a mildly unimpressive 6.3 yards per attempt to go with a totally unimpressive 56.1% completion. Those numbers border on Grossman/Tavaris Jackson/Brodie Croyle levels.

I tend to think that there is something sustainable about his maturation in the playoffs, something real about it, but is it possible he was playing a little over his head throwing only one int in the playoffs, considering he threw about 1.25 per game in the regular season last year?
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It would be great if they let him go! At the very least it would be great if he holds out of training camp for a little bit and the Giants bench him for week 1! This guy is a real good tight end...........With him out of the game all you have to do is double up Plax, stack the box and see if Eli can beat you! We all know he can't!

Pats thought the same thing,how did that work out for them?
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