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Old 03-25-2008, 11:43 PM   #16
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:44 AM   #18
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I definitely agree with folks that believe Mix should be given a chance. Plus, it's not like we want hiim for the #1 WR spot...he will be #3 WR behind Moss and ARE. For depth, we should draft anothe WR in the later rounds though, but we should not take a WR in the first round. There other areas that need to be addressed besides the WR position.

And if Mix doesn't work out...well then he is an Undrafted Free Agent... so oh well. If he does, then great our offense gets better.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:20 AM   #19
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So I haven't posted much this off-season, mostly because we have been rather quiet in FA, and all that. But early in the off season when CJ's name first came up I said along with a few others that WR is in no way a primary need for this team going into next year. I am glad I stayed out of the several WR FA discussions for the most part, considering that we are right where we began, and are no way in trouble at the position.

We have two excellent, quick, shifty, play maker starting WR's in SM and ARE, and Caldwell and McCardell were two solid secondary receivers. On top of that we have some young talent with potential in Mix. From that standpoint it seemed obvious to me that the lines were our biggest need, and WR was not much of a concern. Certainly an upgrade or an influx of young talent will be needed at the position in the next few years, but the need is by no means imminent.

Now I know Caldwell is gone, but what about McCardell, noone has said anything about him and he had a pretty good year for us last year, is he still around? If he is I think he deserves to be recognized as at least our #5, if not #3 WR at this point. Mix is not proven, and I think he had better production then Thrash (but I could easily be mistaken).

Mix's potential with his size and speed and his connection with JC are certainly very enticing, but there is no way we can consider him capable of being one of our top 3 WR's until we actually see him play. But I dont think he needs to be. We have a solid WR corps. If he steps up that will make a huge difference to this team, if not I think we can survive a year or two with the status quo while we concentrate on areas of greater immediate need.

All that said, I am officially on the Mix bandwagon!!

He'll eclipse Moss by week two.
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I definitely agree with folks that believe Mix should be given a chance. Plus, it's not like we want hiim for the #1 WR spot...he will be #3 WR behind Moss and ARE. For depth, we should draft anothe WR in the later rounds though, but we should not take a WR in the first round. There other areas that need to be addressed besides the WR position.

And if Mix doesn't work out...well then he is an Undrafted Free Agent... so oh well. If he does, then great our offense gets better.
Close but not quite. Mix would be the #2 because ARE is moving to the slot. Please try and keep up.
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Close but not quite. Mix would be the #2 because ARE is moving to the slot. Please try and keep up.
Maybe not. When they were talking about bringing in DJ Hackett the plan was to still keep ARE at the #2 in most packages.
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I certainly think that we could use an upgrade at wide receiver, but I don't think we should use a high draft pick on a wideout. If Jason Campbell can't "get it done" with Moss, ARE, Cooley, Betts and Portis at the skill positions then we are in trouble regardless of whether we add another good wideout. Pro Bowl appearances are over-hyped, but I think it's somewhat meaningful that we have a Pro Bowl RB, TE and WR on our roster. We don't have as much talent at the skill positions as Indy, but we've got enough talent to field a very effective offense.

We need to start finding our new Hogs/Dirtbags. I forsee serious problems along the O-line in the coming years if we don't starting working in new blood immediately.
Are you kidding me? What has Moss and ARE done the last two years? We need someone that can take over a game. Moss and ARE and nice 2nd and 3rd NFL wr's. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Anthony Mix. Really? I've never seen so much hype over a guy who wasn't drafted, has been in the league three years yet has never started a game, and has 3 catches EVER. THREE! At this point he's a been a practice squad to #5 caliber player.

Sure he's tall, but if this guy was a hidden gem, wouldn't he have shown something, anything at this point? I've read that he is a poor route runner and has just average speed for a WR. And people around here are talking about him playing his way into a #2 or #3? Based on what?

This article to me is total hogwash. JLC has nothing else to write about. We tried to get Hackett, and we didn't. We tried to re-sign Caldwell and he went to St. Louis instead. So when asked about Mix, Zorn said, "I like him." What's he supposed to say, "the guy is a bum and I don't like him" ?? Had Hackett or Caldwell been signed and Thrash makes the roster, Mix would be a 4 or 5 at best.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the guy emerge as a playmaker. But I see the chances of that happening as remote. 2009's WR class in the draft isn't exactly loaded, and unless we totally suck and end up with a top 5 pick, Michael Crabtree will be gone. Not drafting a WR this year would be a bad idea. Holding out with the hope of signing Roy Williams for '09 isn't a sound strategy either. I'd like to see a list of what WR's will be FA's next season.

Moss and ARE have constantly battled nagging injuries since signing with the team (except for Santana's 2005 campaign). No reason to think that will change. Mix can't be relied upon to fill in when one or both of them misses a game or two with the usual hamstring pull. IMO there is no rational justification for not drafting/trading for a WR. To do neither and hold out hope that Mix emerges is an awful move.
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2009 Free Agent WRs: Off the top of my head Marques Colston, TJ Housh..., Roy Williams, Bobby Engram, and Taylor Jacobs
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2009 Free Agent WRs: Off the top of my head Marques Colston, TJ Housh..., Roy Williams, Bobby Engram, and Taylor Jacobs
Oh, Colston would be awesome in B&G. But I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a nice extension from the Saints during the season this year. They drafted Meachem last year and he's been a flop thus far. Housh or Roy W would of course be great, but I just don't agree with not trying to upgrade through the draft (especially since we have a bunch of picks) with the hope we'll be able to sign one of these guys. Given the Chad Johnson situation I think Cincy would be dumb not to give Housh an extension.
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Anthony Mix. Really? I've never seen so much hype over a guy who wasn't drafted, has been in the league three years yet has never started a game, and has 3 catches EVER. THREE! At this point he's a been a practice squad to #5 caliber player.

Sure he's tall, but if this guy was a hidden gem, wouldn't he have shown something, anything at this point? I've read that he is a poor route runner and has just average speed for a WR. And people around here are talking about him playing his way into a #2 or #3? Based on what?

This article to me is total hogwash. JLC has nothing else to write about. We tried to get Hackett, and we didn't. We tried to re-sign Caldwell and he went to St. Louis instead. So when asked about Mix, Zorn said, "I like him." What's he supposed to say, "the guy is a bum and I don't like him" ?? Had Hackett or Caldwell been signed and Thrash makes the roster, Mix would be a 4 or 5 at best.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the guy emerge as a playmaker. But I see the chances of that happening as remote. 2009's WR class in the draft isn't exactly loaded, and unless we totally suck and end up with a top 5 pick, Michael Crabtree will be gone. Not drafting a WR this year would be a bad idea. Holding out with the hope of signing Roy Williams for '09 isn't a sound strategy either. I'd like to see a list of what WR's will be FA's next season.

Moss and ARE have constantly battled nagging injuries since signing with the team (except for Santana's 2005 campaign). No reason to think that will change. Mix can't be relied upon to fill in when one or both of them misses a game or two with the usual hamstring pull. IMO there is no rational justification for not drafting/trading for a WR. To do neither and hold out hope that Mix emerges is an awful move.
I understand what you are saying but reality is we never used the West Coast Offense with this personnel we have now. Mix probably can be a totally new WR in this system I trust Zorn if he is excited I am too. I believe Mix can be our Marques Colston diamond in the rough.
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2009 Free Agent WRs: Off the top of my head Marques Colston, TJ Housh..., Roy Williams, Bobby Engram, and Taylor Jacobs
We all no Jacobs is the best on that list lol!!!!
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I understand what you are saying but reality is we never used the West Coast Offense with this personnel we have now. Mix probably can be a totally new WR in this system I trust Zorn if he is excited I am too. I believe Mix can be our Marques Colston diamond in the rough.
My point is, Mix didn't do much in college, and hasn't done much in the pros. To stand pat at WR with the baseless hope he emerges as a playmaker isn't smart. Upgrade through the draft and still give Mix his shot. That's my opinion anyway. Guys like Marques Colston (6th or 7th round pick turned immediate stud) happen once a decade. And Colston was a beast in college, Mix was not.
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I think we'll still look to the draft for a WR. I wouldn't take this Mix article as an indication that the team feels they are completely set at WR.
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Are you kidding me? What has Moss and ARE done the last two years? We need someone that can take over a game. Moss and ARE and nice 2nd and 3rd NFL wr's. Nothing more and nothing less.
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