Our West Coast Playbook

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor · 03-30-2008, 02:49 PM

I was thinking the other day and our west coast offense could have a mixture of Washington, Tennessee and Seattle. I mean Norm Chow (incredible offensive mind) waa the offensive coordinator at Tennessee for 3 seasons. Chow did not have a pocket passer which would explain th failure there but I bet his playbook was full of good stuff. Of which Sherman was the Assistant Head Coach/Running backs during that time. Basically, Sherman was heavily involved in the offensive gameplan. Norm Chow is a master of the west coast offense. Of course, we will have the Seattle playbook of which Zorn has 7 seasons of as the quarterbacks coach for Holmgren (the man). Also you know we have some of Al Saunders palybook too. This makes for some impressive offensive football. You could take a little bit further and include Tampa Bay, Philadelphia and Minnesota to that equation. Of course, Zorn will run his own hybrid west coast system but I getting excited. I just wish we would just go to a pure zone blocking rushing scheme for Portis like it was in Denver and take out the smash out. Folks we should be in pretty good shape if the players buy into the system.

Redskin Jim · 03-30-2008, 03:34 PM

I like your attitude! I also agree with your insights on the new system brought to the team, and I am in agony waiting to see the new look offense.

GridIron26 · 03-30-2008, 04:19 PM

I was thinking about same thing last week or so.. It should be interesting to watch and see how our new offense works out..

BeastsoftheNFCeast · 03-30-2008, 05:29 PM

I think that we should have a mediocre offense next year. You cant just look at the coaching experince when looking at these things, whats more important are the players. I think Campbell will be able to do an ok job in the west coast offense because he seems to be proficient at making short-middle throws, portis seems built for this offense due to his blocking abilities and style of run (but then again I think there isn't an offense he wouldn't thrive in), Our O-line should do very well if healthy (but I know we will have a big injury or two on the o-line), but the problem is our recievers, I just don't feel like they are strong enough for us to have an effective offense, especially in the west coast where recievers are key. We don't have any depth (our 3rd reciever is James mofoin Thrash right now, a guy who would be cut from many teams) Also I feel as if Moss isn't a number 1 reciever and Randle El isnt a number 2 reciever. I feel we really dropped the ball by not signing Hackett...he really could have helped us out. Hopefully Mix comes up big, or we hit the jackpot in the draft.

GridIron26 · 03-30-2008, 05:48 PM

Uh I believe Moss is number 1 wideout when healthy?? I know, 2005 season is years ago but unfortunately it was only year when he was 100% healthy.. So, all we can do is hope he won't have any injuries this year.. As for ARE, I believe he has done enough to prove himself as #2 WR, not the greatest one but good enough.. James Thrash - I don't really get why most people don't think he is good.. He always takes over when needed to.. He might not be good enough but I would trust him to catch balls.. I don't even remember seeing him dropping a ball last few years?

RedZone · 03-30-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I was thinking the other day and our west coast offense could have a mixture of Washington, Tennessee and Seattle.... You could take a little bit further and include Tampa Bay, Philadelphia and Minnesota to that equation. Of course, Zorn will run his own hybrid west coast system....

This is a deep analysis. The new offensive is bound to be a hybrid of sorts. Zorn has billed it "West Coast," but I recall that he hinted it would not be purely that style. It seems clear that it won't be a carbon copy of another team's system.

None of the Skins new offensive coaches have reputations as masterminds. Maybe they will after the season is through, but a new staff with a new playbook suggests that it might be an evolving system -- with tweaks and improvements game to game.

Don't read this as pessimistic but, like breaking in a pair of new shoes, there's bound to be some pain before the comfort.

skinsfan69 · 03-30-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I was thinking the other day and our west coast offense could have a mixture of Washington, Tennessee and Seattle. I mean Norm Chow (incredible offensive mind) waa the offensive coordinator at Tennessee for 3 seasons. Chow did not have a pocket passer which would explain th failure there but I bet his playbook was full of good stuff. Of which Sherman was the Assistant Head Coach/Running backs during that time. Basically, Sherman was heavily involved in the offensive gameplan. Norm Chow is a master of the west coast offense. Of course, we will have the Seattle playbook of which Zorn has 7 seasons of as the quarterbacks coach for Holmgren (the man). Also you know we have some of Al Saunders palybook too. This makes for some impressive offensive football. You could take a little bit further and include Tampa Bay, Philadelphia and Minnesota to that equation. Of course, Zorn will run his own hybrid west coast system but I getting excited. I just wish we would just go to a pure zone blocking rushing scheme for Portis like it was in Denver and take out the smash out. Folks we should be in pretty good shape if the players buy into the system.

Honestly, all teams run the same plays. The major difference is going to be in the terminology in the passing game and formations. Plus more aggressive playcalling.

Paintrain · 03-30-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RedZone

This is a deep analysis. The new offensive is bound to be a hybrid of sorts. Zorn has billed it "West Coast," but I recall that he hinted it would not be purely that style. It seems clear that it won't be a carbon copy of another team's system.

None of the Skins new offensive coaches have reputations as masterminds. Maybe they will after the season is through, but a new staff with a new playbook suggests that it might be an evolving system -- with tweaks and improvements game to game.

Don't read this as pessimistic but, like breaking in a pair of new shoes, there's bound to be some pain before the comfort.

Keep in mind that with Zorn being a former QB and QB coach, he's going to do things that are extremely QB friendly. He's not going to be stubborn like Gruden or Holmgren and try to cram his 'system' into the players heads with no regard for their strengths and weaknesses.. The other HUGE difference is we are keeping the same running scheme and terminology intact so we're not learning an entirely new offense, but a new passing game.. Even with that, it's not like the West Coast offense is a brand new scheme to football.. Campbell played in it in college, Portis played in it in Denver, Cooley played in it in college so we're not reinventing the wheel.. With our talent and more aggressive playcalling I think we'll be fine this year..

03-30-2008, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 278	Our West Coast Playbook I was thinking the other day and our west coast offense could have a mixture of Washington, Tennessee and Seattle. I mean Norm Chow (incredible offensive mind) waa the offensive coordinator at Tennessee for 3 seasons. Chow did not have a pocket passer which would explain th failure there but I bet his playbook was full of good stuff. Of which Sherman was the Assistant Head Coach/Running backs during that time. Basically, Sherman was heavily involved in the offensive gameplan. Norm Chow is a master of the west coast offense. Of course, we will have the Seattle playbook of which Zorn has 7 seasons of as the quarterbacks coach for Holmgren (the man). Also you know we have some of Al Saunders palybook too. This makes for some impressive offensive football. You could take a little bit further and include Tampa Bay, Philadelphia and Minnesota to that equation. Of course, Zorn will run his own hybrid west coast system but I getting excited. I just wish we would just go to a pure zone blocking rushing scheme for Portis like it was in Denver and take out the smash out. Folks we should be in pretty good shape if the players buy into the system.

03-30-2008, 03:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Redskin Jim Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA- via VA Posts: 53	Re: Our West Coast Playbook I like your attitude! I also agree with your insights on the new system brought to the team, and I am in agony waiting to see the new look offense. __________________ Hail to The REDSKINS

03-30-2008, 04:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
GridIron26 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 427	Re: Our West Coast Playbook I was thinking about same thing last week or so.. It should be interesting to watch and see how our new offense works out..

03-30-2008, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
BeastsoftheNFCeast Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 310	Re: Our West Coast Playbook I think that we should have a mediocre offense next year. You cant just look at the coaching experince when looking at these things, whats more important are the players. I think Campbell will be able to do an ok job in the west coast offense because he seems to be proficient at making short-middle throws, portis seems built for this offense due to his blocking abilities and style of run (but then again I think there isn't an offense he wouldn't thrive in), Our O-line should do very well if healthy (but I know we will have a big injury or two on the o-line), but the problem is our recievers, I just don't feel like they are strong enough for us to have an effective offense, especially in the west coast where recievers are key. We don't have any depth (our 3rd reciever is James mofoin Thrash right now, a guy who would be cut from many teams) Also I feel as if Moss isn't a number 1 reciever and Randle El isnt a number 2 reciever. I feel we really dropped the ball by not signing Hackett...he really could have helped us out. Hopefully Mix comes up big, or we hit the jackpot in the draft.

03-30-2008, 05:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
GridIron26 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 427	Re: Our West Coast Playbook Uh I believe Moss is number 1 wideout when healthy?? I know, 2005 season is years ago but unfortunately it was only year when he was 100% healthy.. So, all we can do is hope he won't have any injuries this year.. As for ARE, I believe he has done enough to prove himself as #2 WR, not the greatest one but good enough.. James Thrash - I don't really get why most people don't think he is good.. He always takes over when needed to.. He might not be good enough but I would trust him to catch balls.. I don't even remember seeing him dropping a ball last few years?

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