Jerome Mathis signed

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-10-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, the way I look at it is you can do one of two things:
1- You can give this kid the benefit of the doubt and get on board and hope he keeps his nose clean as well performs well.
2- You can complain with all your might even though your opinion will not change the Skins minds.
(there doesn't seem to be a point the latter, but to each his own.)

Actually those aren't mutually exclusive. I'm pretty much doing both. I don't support the move because I don't want players with this kind of baggage, period. That said, I'm well aware that my opinion won't change anything and so I'm hoping that he proves me wrong, keeps his nose clean, and contributes on the field. Doesn't mean I have to approve of the move to be able to hope for the best.

bigm29 · 04-10-2008, 11:08 AM

I doubt Mathis will get much time at receiver if he even makes the team at all. He is nasty at returning though which is a position the skins lack a star player at. I know he is a douche though but still. the worst thing that can happen is we cut him, big deal. Good signing in my opinion.

jsarno · 04-10-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

Actually those aren't mutually exclusive. I'm pretty much doing both. I don't support the move because I don't want players with this kind of baggage, period. That said, I'm well aware that my opinion won't change anything and so I'm hoping that he proves me wrong, keeps his nose clean, and contributes on the field. Doesn't mean I have to approve of the move to be able to hope for the best.

They are mutually exclusive when one is "give this kid the benefit of the doubt". That is something you are not doing right now.
I completely understand not wanting a person of questionable character on the team, but since there is nothing I can do about it, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. If he fails to keep his nose clean, then I will be the first in line to want the Skins to give him the axe.

We gave Taylor the benefit of the doubt and he turned out to be quite a player for us. People can change. I hope just like you do that we didn't sign someone like pacman. Time will tell I guess.

firstdown · 04-10-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

They are mutually exclusive when one is "give this kid the benefit of the doubt". That is something you are not doing right now.
I completely understand not wanting a person of questionable character on the team, but since there is nothing I can do about it, I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope for the best. If he fails to keep his nose clean, then I will be the first in line to want the Skins to give him the axe.

We gave Taylor the benefit of the doubt and he turned out to be quite a player for us. People can change. I hope just like you do that we didn't sign someone like pacman. Time will tell I guess.

We did not sign a man like pacman because we did not give him a big contract. I just don't see what the big deal is with this signing. If he presents a problem than we can dump him with very little lost. If he turns aout to be good add then we got a very good deal. Now if we had signed him to a multi year deal worth millions then I would say people have a right to be ticked but that is not the case.

jsarno · 04-10-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

We did not sign a man like pacman because we did not give him a big contract. I just don't see what the big deal is with this signing. If he presents a problem than we can dump him with very little lost. If he turns aout to be good add then we got a very good deal. Now if we had signed him to a multi year deal worth millions then I would say people have a right to be ticked but that is not the case.

I agree with you.

Someone on here said there was little risk and little reward. I disagree with that. I think it's little risk high reward.
I am not a big fan of Rock as our KR. I know he puts up decent numbers, but he has difficulty finding the hole to break one, and his speed isn't there to break away if he did. This is an upgrade for our special teams. The first time this kid breaks one, we will forget all about Rock.

jsarno · 04-10-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

We did not sign a man like pacman because we did not give him a big contract. I just don't see what the big deal is with this signing. If he presents a problem than we can dump him with very little lost. If he turns aout to be good add then we got a very good deal. Now if we had signed him to a multi year deal worth millions then I would say people have a right to be ticked but that is not the case.

Apparently no one has cause he's still a titan. The cowboys said today that negotiations are fading. He might not even find a home.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-10-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

I agree with you.

Someone on here said there was little risk and little reward. I disagree with that. I think it's little risk high reward.
I am not a big fan of Rock as our KR. I know he puts up decent numbers, but he has difficulty finding the hole to break one, and his speed isn't there to break away if he did. This is an upgrade for our special teams. The first time this kid breaks one, we will forget all about Rock.

Exactly what I was thinking. Once you see him just speed past everyone for a TD, you will forget about his dogs. Point of Rock on KR. Think back to the Cardnials opening kickoff of the 2nd half Rock had a TD if he a) had the speed to outrun Antrel Rolle and b) didnt get hurt but even if he didnt get hurt he would not have out run rolle

DGreene28 · 04-10-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Exactly what I was thinking. Once you see him just speed past everyone for a TD, you will forget about his dogs. Point of Rock on KR. Think back to the Cardnials opening kickoff of the 2nd half Rock had a TD if he a) had the speed to outrun Antrel Rolle and b) didnt get hurt but even if he didnt get hurt he would not have out run rolle

It will be exciting knowing that every time he touches the ball if he finds a seam he's taking it all the way. Kind of speed skins haven't seen on returns since D Green.

jsarno · 04-10-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Exactly what I was thinking. Once you see him just speed past everyone for a TD, you will forget about his dogs. Point of Rock on KR. Think back to the Cardnials opening kickoff of the 2nd half Rock had a TD if he a) had the speed to outrun Antrel Rolle and b) didnt get hurt but even if he didnt get hurt he would not have out run rolle

exactly my point!

JDub21 · 04-11-2008, 02:49 AM

good move. speed is in question after injuries, but we can always cut the guy

SBXVII · 04-11-2008, 03:52 PM

Neet to see if he can catch and maybe place him opposite Moss on go routes.

freddyg12 · 04-11-2008, 04:22 PM

Remember the 05 draft & a no. of people here as I recall were talking him up as a mid round pick to look out for? (I haven't done a search yet, but I remember talking about his 4.29 speed if memory serves me correctly)

Now, the guy is having a kid, which could mature him the way it did w/ST, and he's moving close to home where he'll hopefully have some support. Add to that his contract is a 1 yr. no bonuse vet. min deal & what you have is a guy w/every bit of motivation to play well & keep things in order. If he can't get it done this year he'll likely never make it.

I don't like the sound of him per se, but the deal he signed makes sense & if he can become the main kr w/out trouble off field then it's a steal. If we continue at this rate, the WP should declare this the offseason of the vet minimum!

DirteePosse · 04-11-2008, 06:44 PM

I'm on Mathis' side. I think he will produce and have a great season. Will be hard to re-sign him next year. he'll be like Josh Cribbs.

schndr_tdd · 04-12-2008, 09:45 AM

His signing leads me to believe that Betts will be traded.Rock move to the backup role,Mason as the 3rd and Mathis on ST.They have something going on,i dont know if it is to gain more picks to get younger,of if there is a trade in the works.Williams of Detroit is looking good right now.They need a RB.

Mattyk72 · 04-12-2008, 12:50 PM

I doubt Betts is going anywhere. Rock as the primary backup?? Please.

04-10-2008, 11:08 AM	#152 (permalink)
bigm29 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mt. Laurel, NJ Posts: 327	Re: Jerome Mathis signed I doubt Mathis will get much time at receiver if he even makes the team at all. He is nasty at returning though which is a position the skins lack a star player at. I know he is a douche though but still. the worst thing that can happen is we cut him, big deal. Good signing in my opinion. __________________ Hail Redskins!!!

04-11-2008, 02:49 AM	#160 (permalink)
JDub21 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	Re: Jerome Mathis signed good move. speed is in question after injuries, but we can always cut the guy __________________ when you're winning, fight like you're losing

04-11-2008, 03:52 PM	#161 (permalink)
SBXVII Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Stafford, Va. Posts: 796	Re: Jerome Mathis signed Neet to see if he can catch and maybe place him opposite Moss on go routes.

04-11-2008, 04:22 PM	#162 (permalink)
freddyg12 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,138	Re: Jerome Mathis signed Remember the 05 draft & a no. of people here as I recall were talking him up as a mid round pick to look out for? (I haven't done a search yet, but I remember talking about his 4.29 speed if memory serves me correctly) Now, the guy is having a kid, which could mature him the way it did w/ST, and he's moving close to home where he'll hopefully have some support. Add to that his contract is a 1 yr. no bonuse vet. min deal & what you have is a guy w/every bit of motivation to play well & keep things in order. If he can't get it done this year he'll likely never make it. I don't like the sound of him per se, but the deal he signed makes sense & if he can become the main kr w/out trouble off field then it's a steal. If we continue at this rate, the WP should declare this the offseason of the vet minimum!

04-11-2008, 06:44 PM	#163 (permalink)
DirteePosse Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 29	Re: Jerome Mathis signed I'm on Mathis' side. I think he will produce and have a great season. Will be hard to re-sign him next year. he'll be like Josh Cribbs. __________________ All I wanna do is zoom zoom in ya boom boom

04-12-2008, 09:45 AM	#164 (permalink)
schndr_tdd Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 66	Re: Jerome Mathis signed His signing leads me to believe that Betts will be traded.Rock move to the backup role,Mason as the 3rd and Mathis on ST.They have something going on,i dont know if it is to gain more picks to get younger,of if there is a trade in the works.Williams of Detroit is looking good right now.They need a RB.

04-12-2008, 12:50 PM	#165 (permalink)
Mattyk72 custom user title Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 33,228	Re: Jerome Mathis signed I doubt Betts is going anywhere. Rock as the primary backup?? Please. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Warpath Shop \| DC Pro Sports Report

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