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Old 04-29-2008, 04:53 PM   #46
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Just saw that the Tuna won't even talk to him now. I guess he's pissed about Taylor dancing with the stars instead of working out with the team.
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Yeah, they've been talking this up on all the Sports Radio here. Parcells is acting like a little baby. When was Taylor supposed to have cleared his commitment to Dancing with the Stars with the Tuna? When Bill was still a talking head on ESPN? It's just stupid. Jason Taylor has been Miami's best player for years, and now, Parcells has turned the town against him and won't even talk to him. Wow, I'd really like to go play for a guy like that.
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:04 PM   #47
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how about a straight up trade for taylor involving a current player?maybe carlos rogers or smoot???
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:28 PM   #48
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I guess I could live with offering a second rounder next year, but that is probably too much to give up in the current market. They will never get a first rounder for him so maybe we should at least offer a third.
He is pretty old, and I know he is still productive, but you never know when his gas runs out.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:50 PM   #49
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I say we offer nothing an not be interested in a 34 year old who has already hit his prime, especially since most people in this thread called for us to draft a DE because ours are too old...
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:46 PM   #50
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Taylor was Defensive player of the year 2 seasons ago. He is 34 but could be a great addition to our D-line. If you have questions about how much more he has in the tank and what kind of impact he would have for us next year look no further then Strahan's impact on the G-Men last year... Without the aging Stahan the Giants do not win the Super Bowl. This is not a player who has had injury problems and hes a great locker room guy. If we can get him for a 2nd then we need to pull the trigger yesterday. Taylor has not won a ring and getting a character guy who can still play 2-3 years is a no brainer. The Giants are proof that there are a lot of teams who can make a run at the bowl and we are in that group next year... a key move like this could put us over the hump
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:50 PM   #51
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He'll turn 34 Week 1 next season. So technically he's 33 right now.
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:57 PM   #52
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how about a straight up trade for taylor involving a current player?maybe carlos rogers or smoot???
And who would take over either Smoot or Carlos' role when we ship him off to Dolphins? Jason Taylor is not worth any of our players except for maybe Phillip Daniels? It would be like if we had same player due to age?

I highly doubt Redskins would go for him even though it may look good to have him but it won't be good for us in two or three years later.. This is a waste of our time..
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:00 PM   #53
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We should have signed Kearse or Antwan Odom.
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Old 05-14-2008, 05:08 PM   #54
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He's had at least 10 sacks the last 3 years, the only thing Daniels and he have in common is they are getting up there in age. If we traded for Taylor, Daniels would be a rotational player at DE and DT on passing downs. I Think thats where he could excel this season allowing him to pace himself for hopefully a playoff run he's no spring chicken and has shown a history of getting nicked. Taylor on the other hand has not.... he has been extremely durable and only missed a few games in his career.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:53 PM   #55
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I think it would be a great pick up for a 3rd round pick. Maybe even a 2nd round pick if we could get a later round pick in return. The only super glarring weekness on our team right now is a pass rushing end to play opposite of Carter. He is a bit old but probably has 2 good years left and would be the best player on our d-line. Plus I believe he is from Waldorf so he probably wouldnt mind coming home to end his career with a playoff team! I think he is the missing piece to a deep playoff run by the skins. Then all we would need is another veteran backup LB just in case Rocky doesnt fully come back or Marcus gets hurt again..... maybe Roosevelt Colvin??? Then next year add another O-lineman and draft all defensive players next year for our aging D!!
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:03 AM   #56
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I initially did not want any part of this guy pre-draft due to age....however, the draft did not result in a DE for us...even for depth.

It is pretty clear to me that when the Skins drafted their first 3 picks that they either thought...
They could survive with the Dline without changes (I dont agree)
They could somehow get a free agent DE (unlikely, except for sloppy depth)
They could get decent talent with some sort of trade.

The only trade bait we have now is one of our wideouts or future picks.
No way should we trade a young player for an old one....and I think Vinny agrees.
So that leaves draft picks.

Yes, Taylor is worth a 3rd....to the Skins, maybe more because even if we draft a killer DE next year, we still need a solid starter that year.

He is definately not worth a first....a second is probably too much unless they give us something...such as a 4th or a player...like a backup LB....(we are short on those)

I like Taylor...imagine Taylor and Carter, with Daniels at DT on 3rd and long.
Daniels has bulked up off season so he can play DT.

By the way....why do you think the Skins made cap space?
Yes...to try to get a WR.....but I'm sure more aquisition options were on the table besides Chad Johnson....and everyone knows...the top need on defense for the Skins is another pass rushing end.

I say....give the fins a 3rd and get his butt up here fast!
I would love it!
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:29 AM   #57
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Taylor was Defensive player of the year 2 seasons ago. He is 34 but could be a great addition to our D-line. If you have questions about how much more he has in the tank and what kind of impact he would have for us next year look no further then Strahan's impact on the G-Men last year... Without the aging Stahan the Giants do not win the Super Bowl. This is not a player who has had injury problems and hes a great locker room guy. If we can get him for a 2nd then we need to pull the trigger yesterday. Taylor has not won a ring and getting a character guy who can still play 2-3 years is a no brainer. The Giants are proof that there are a lot of teams who can make a run at the bowl and we are in that group next year... a key move like this could put us over the hump
Let Miami release him and then we'll pick him up. They probably don't want to pay is 8 mil salary so play the waiting game. Giving up a high draft pick for Taylor is simply insane.

I'm not so sure about Taylor putting us over the hump either. We don't have a wr like Plax B. that can take over a game. Plus the Giants have 3 or 4 guys that can get after the passer. Right now we barely have one.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:34 AM   #58
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If the Skins could trade Smoot for Taylor straight up, they should jump on that in a heart beat.
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Old 05-15-2008, 10:51 AM   #59
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No way. We need the CB depth more, plus Smoot played very well last season and brings a lot of energy and leadership to the team, he's one of thh core guys.

Plus, Taylor is getting older. We know Smoot fits in, we don't know about Taylor.

Not a deal we should do. Especially since Taylor's salary will be MUCH higher than Smoot's and the injury risk and lack of production is more likely to come from Taylor than Smoot.
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I've changed my tune a bit, I wouldn't hate it if we got Taylor at the right price, as in a later round pick but I doubt the Dolphins would go for anything less than a 2nd at the worst. Even at 33 he's shown no sign of slowing down and he keeps himself in great condition. He could probably continue to play at a high level for 2-3 more seasons.
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