Rosenhaus Pleads With Cincy To Trade Johnson

dmek25

you really are living in fantasy land. with Johnson it is about one thing, and that one thing is money. the guy could give 2 shits about winning. he proved that a couple of seasons ago. the Bengals were a playoff team, with a great offense. and all he was worried about was getting paid. so don't give me that line of shit about him wanting to win

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GTripp0012

Because their super bowl candidacy this season rides heavily on a career year from their Quarterback, and one of the easiest ways to ensure that your quarterback will struggle in the short term is to take away his top target.

They don't need Chad Johnson to be happy, but they do need him on the field.

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GTripp0012

dmek, didn't you also accuse Dan Marino of not wanting to win?

Where's the line here, and what gives you insight into which professionals are in it for the money and which others are in it for the glory of victory. Aren't both of those things somewhat selfish in their own manner?

This isn't the first time you have assumed a (incorrect, imo) dualism. Can't some players want to win and get paid? Why is it always one or the other?

Johnson has taken a lot of crap from the media, but whereas Javon Walker, Lance Briggs, and Jake Plummer tried to burn their bridges in order to force a trade, Johnson simply made his desires public, and let the Bengals decide where he would play in 2008. Distraction or not, that is the proper way to go about it, and I don't think this will be an issue again until next offseason.

If the Bengals do have a bounceback season, like many expect, seems like he will be very happy playing out the rest of his career in Cinci.

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dmek25

gtripp, while i respect your opinion, i disagree. do you think Johnson would have any problem getting traded to the redskins? i don't think so. realistically, as much as i hate to admit it, the skins are a long shot to win it all. with a salary cap, its hard for ALL the players on winning teams to get paid. its just one of the issues that come with winning. just 2 short years ago, the Bengals renegotiated his contract. he was a top dollar receiver then. are they supposed to open up his contract every time some other wide out makes more then him? no team can operated successfully like that. i be willing to guess that he would play on just about any team that was willing to pay him. just my opinion

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WaldSkins

The Bengals might have a very good offense, but their defense is equally as bad. I dont see them having a bounce back season. They could even finish dead last in their own division.

GTripp0012

Johnson is under contract and can't really choose where he goes. If he tells the Bengals "I don't want to play for you guys anymore", and the Bengals say "Fine, you're a Redskin now", I think Johnson would be very happy with the new opportunity.

Perception is this: we were a playoff team this year, and the Bengals weren't. So he'd probably think we have a better shot with him than the Bengals do. Plus, he probably thinks that the Bengals are losing in spite of his efforts (probably not totally off) and that the Redskins would be much improved with him.

In reality, I think Cincinnati's chances at winning the SB are just as good as ours this year if not better, but that's really not what Chad thinks.

I don't think this is really about the money, though generally a new contract comes with a trade, so its probably a minor factor in his desire to be traded.

I totally agree with you that the Bengals are correct to hold their ground. They should try to trade Chad Johnson when it's time to rebuild. The Bengals should not be rebuilding yet, they should be trying to find a solution for their pass defense so they can make a run in a weak division.

But I don't think Chad is particularly unhappy with his deal, at least any more so than the next guy.

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"It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

GTripp0012

Their D has been bad, but it was never as bad as it was last year. If it can rebound, even to 05-06 levels, that team should win 9-10 games.

Their offense has been a top ten lock for the last three years, and there's no reason to expect that to change this year.

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"It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

smoot27

Chad is an Bengles for life IMO. Their is no other way for the Bengles to put it like that . I like the Bengles but when we play them i'm gonna spit at them.


PS: Any one knows how much CP weights right now?. I herd he weight 210 or something but i'm not sure.

SmootSmack

This seems kind of ironic coming from someone who, if I'm not mistaken, said Devin Thomas was only interested in the money when he left Michigan State early, not in getting any better.

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Buster

Let's leave sex lives out of this thread.

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GTripp0012

Well, if I can clarify:

Devin Thomas' choice was to get paid now, or spend another year in college to better his game. That is a dualism, as spending another year in college to improve ones game means he is not allowed to enter the draft. It has to be one or the other.

I wouldn't doubt that Thomas wants to help the Redskins win. That seems pretty fundamental. If you want to play professional ball, you probably want to win while doing so. I would argue that he wasn't the best choice for a team looking to improve itself, but that's another debate entirely.

I was simply addressing the dualism that dmek was assuming between 1) wanting to win, and 2) wanting to get paid. I don't believe one exists there. I think people can both want to win and get paid.

Make sense?

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"It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

dmek25

this is exactly the kind of guy i want on my team. the going gets tough, so its time to take a walk. i still don't think im off, i still think its about the money. im done arguing about it

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