Redskins Insider: Draft Review

djnemo65 · 04-29-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I think the picks are WR were good picks - however I thought they would have gone after the DE from Miami with the second pick since he was still there. the questionable pick was the TE from USC, given we have a probowler there all ready. I think the biggest beef is they have players rated high that generally not a lot of the teams/gm's have rated that high. Kelly's stock steadily declined from the combine as a lot of experts stated, but the Skins still had him as a 1st round talent. I can see where some of the critism may come from. We didn't really address the DE spot that is a glaring need, and since there was a potential started there when we picked Davis it could raise some questions. But overall, I guess we did ok. I personally thought the B may have been a little high, but when you look at value of the picks it falls in line.

Kelly was maybe going to go 9. He was there at 51. It doesn't seem like anyone except for two Washington journalists feel we were pumping up players on our board or misevaluating prospects relative to the rest of the league. The national media universally loves what we did.

freddyg12 · 04-29-2008, 11:16 AM

Fiend makes a good point; they may have picked the 2 wideouts to play the averages, realizing that it's likely one of them either doesn't pan out at all or just becomes a career backup. Add to that, since they moved back w/the trade, the expense won't be much to take the chance that one or all of these guys will be great.

As Matty said, they followed the board & the DEs they liked were gone when thier picks came up. I think this is really the core of this debate between us & JLC/boswell. Should you follow the "board" & draft the best available or draft based on need. It may be that you can do both to some degree, and I think that's what Boswell criticized them for as if they were following the board w/no regard to need.

I think he makes a good point & I think JLC overall has a strong argument, it may just be the way he phrases it w/references to "league sources" & such. I was really surprised by the Davis selection, but the guy is a beast. Also, people so often are referring to TEs as recievers, well they do block on the line as well & Joe Gibbs can tell you how important a good blocking TE is to a running game.

Overall, I look at this relatively. While I would've liked to have gotten a couple more o or d llinemen, instead of trading away picks we actually ended up w/ an additional pick & raised the chances that this draft will produce some players that are in b&g for years to come.

Stuck in TX · 04-29-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Fiend makes a good point; they may have picked the 2 wideouts to play the averages, realizing that it's likely one of them either doesn't pan out at all or just becomes a career backup. Add to that, since they moved back w/the trade, the expense won't be much to take the chance that one or all of these guys will be great.

As Matty said, they followed the board & the DEs they liked were gone when thier picks came up. I think this is really the core of this debate between us & JLC/boswell. Should you follow the "board" & draft the best available or draft based on need. It may be that you can do both to some degree, and I think that's what Boswell criticized them for as if they were following the board w/no regard to need.

I think he makes a good point & I think JLC overall has a strong argument, it may just be the way he phrases it w/references to "league sources" & such. I was really surprised by the Davis selection, but the guy is a beast. Also, people so often are referring to TEs as recievers, well they do block on the line as well & Joe Gibbs can tell you how important a good blocking TE is to a running game.

Overall, I look at this relatively. While I would've liked to have gotten a couple more o or d llinemen, instead of trading away picks we actually ended up w/ an additional pick & raised the chances that this draft will produce some players that are in b&g for years to come.

this brings tears to my eyes... How long have we waited for this? I agree with this and even though the draft is over, there is still FA and UDFA that we have to deal with. With the way the front office handled the draft, I have no doubts at whether or not they will pick up depth at OL or DL.

That Guy · 04-30-2008, 01:27 AM

some people just aren't going to be happy unless they themselves are making the picks... and i can imagine what a disaster that would be... (cue randomly inserted smootsmack jab)

SmootSmack · 04-30-2008, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

some people just aren't going to be happy unless they themselves are making the picks... and i can imagine what a disaster that would be... (cue randomly inserted smootsmack jab)

Jeez, all this because I thought you kinda reminded me of Natalie Portman. You should be flattered...or disturbed

GTripp0012 · 05-02-2008, 07:03 PM

I agree with HOGTIMUS PRIME on one point, and that's if our evaluation of our OL graded it out as average, then it almost certainly was poor methodology to draft some receivers from an average to below average class.

More likely, we felt that the 5 guys we have on the OL are above average, and that mid to late round draft picks could fufill the need for the future. I'm O.K. with that reasoning, but Vinny better be right about the OL then.

04-29-2008, 11:16 AM	#62 (permalink)
freddyg12 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,109	Re: Redskins Insider: Draft Review Fiend makes a good point; they may have picked the 2 wideouts to play the averages, realizing that it's likely one of them either doesn't pan out at all or just becomes a career backup. Add to that, since they moved back w/the trade, the expense won't be much to take the chance that one or all of these guys will be great. As Matty said, they followed the board & the DEs they liked were gone when thier picks came up. I think this is really the core of this debate between us & JLC/boswell. Should you follow the "board" & draft the best available or draft based on need. It may be that you can do both to some degree, and I think that's what Boswell criticized them for as if they were following the board w/no regard to need. I think he makes a good point & I think JLC overall has a strong argument, it may just be the way he phrases it w/references to "league sources" & such. I was really surprised by the Davis selection, but the guy is a beast. Also, people so often are referring to TEs as recievers, well they do block on the line as well & Joe Gibbs can tell you how important a good blocking TE is to a running game. Overall, I look at this relatively. While I would've liked to have gotten a couple more o or d llinemen, instead of trading away picks we actually ended up w/ an additional pick & raised the chances that this draft will produce some players that are in b&g for years to come.

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That Guy Gleaming Turds since 2004 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 13,844	Re: Redskins Insider: Draft Review some people just aren't going to be happy unless they themselves are making the picks... and i can imagine what a disaster that would be... (cue randomly inserted smootsmack jab) __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

05-02-2008, 07:03 PM	#66 (permalink)
GTripp0012 Jason Campbell: Franchise QB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,447	Re: Redskins Insider: Draft Review I agree with HOGTIMUS PRIME on one point, and that's if our evaluation of our OL graded it out as average, then it almost certainly was poor methodology to draft some receivers from an average to below average class. More likely, we felt that the 5 guys we have on the OL are above average, and that mid to late round draft picks could fufill the need for the future. I'm O.K. with that reasoning, but Vinny better be right about the OL then. __________________ "It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

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