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| Re: Vinny Cerrato Quote:
The problem with your take is the experts DID like our draft. I don't think anyone formed their opinions solely based on what the experts said. It was pretty hard to hate what the Skins did overall IMO. | |
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| | #62 |
| \m/ ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato how am I brown nosing? Or were you referring to Kiper? |
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| Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 35
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato I'll be honest and admit I have criticized Vinny Cerrato in the past, but he and the rest of the "Command Staff" did a great job this weekend with the draft. I think Daniel Synder is finally maturing as an owner. I like how things are looking for the Skins in the next few years and beyond. Could be some good times to come.
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| Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 34
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| Thank You, Sean. ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 27
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato The one thing I never really hated about Cerrato was his ability to draft talent. I feel like he's always done a good job with the picks that we have...the biggest probelm was he always traded away those picks before he had a chance to do anything. I really never thought the people he drafted was the issue with him.
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| | #66 | |
| Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato Quote:
If Corneilus Griffin can stay healthy all year, I think our DL will do fine. However, the second he stops getting a push up the middle, Carter and Evans are no longer a threat to anyone. Perhaps Phillip Daniels can help us as a defensive tackle/interior pass rusher this season.
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| Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Just win baby
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato I'm very pleased. I like we got the number 1 and number 2 rated WR's and one of the top 3 TE's. All in the second round. I love that we got Colt Brennan. I love the other pics, they are going to work out. All of them. Mark my words. The punter is even more. A young rookie to make a pro bowler. We haven't had a good punter in YEARS. REGGIE ROBY. Anyway, the only thing I dont like, is Cerrato's eyes. Has he had botox or something? NO expression. LOL. Anyway, I just think that Cornellius is a run smasher, and since Andre has come into his own (10 1/2 sacks this year), we didn't feel DE was of that much concern. We the fans may have thought it, but I guess they didn't. We've got some core backups for DE, since we have versitle lineman in Wilson and Montgomery. We could have used better secondary help, but maybe well trade or something, I dunno. Needless to say, we had a decent draft. B+
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| Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato And the answer is a resounding "no". If defense did win champiionships, we should have done a whole lot better in 2004 when we had the #3 ranked D in the NFL. We finished a whopping 6-10. |
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| Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato Quote:
There's no doubt our front five will have to start restocking for the future, but it's not like the guys we have now are keeling over left and right. We should be fine without the fluke injuries for at least this season. But next April going after another highly ranked guard and tackle should be a priority. | |
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| Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato As 'ol Ken Beatrice used to say, "defense wins championships and offense puts people in the stands." I really love the fact that there are so many optimists on The Warpath and people are getting behind the team. I'm sorry I can't be one of them. I still think Cerrato is not a legitimate General Manager and I think their picks and constant infatuation with wide receivers is simply put, a recipe for disaster. I would have preferred for them to have gone out and taken Campbell and possibly John Greco - or traded up to pick up Merling. Ah well, we'll see what happens, no? |
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| Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Age: 27
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato Defense win championships. hands down. you just have to have the offense to accomodate that defense. not allowing the other team to score is more important than scoring, but some scoring must be done... after all thats what determines a winner.
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| Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2008
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And the standard cop-out line of the weekend is "we took the guys that were highest on OUR board, regardless of position." Since it was THEIR board, that means they took whoever the hell they wanted. I'm sorry, but what is wrong with drafting for needs when you have glaring needs and are confident in your evaluations. But hey, I'm glad that this is clearly Vinny's team now, so we will know who is accountable. Whoever made the calls on Lloyd and Arch, as well as Peirce, should have been fired, and maybe they have been for all I know. And yeah, defense does win championships. The Giants D-line got to Brady. That's the only thing that could have beaten the Pats. | |
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| | #73 |
| MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato I gotta say I was impressed with Vinny during the draft. And it seems like he really stuck to his guns, because he talked about how they were drafting the BPA and that's why they took guys like Fred Davis and Malcolm Kelly even though we had other needs, he said those were the top guys on our board, and he stuck with those picks probably knowing that some of the fan base would go berserk and question his intelligence about it. I was one of those fans right after it happened, but I've learned a lot about these guys the last couple days and now I do believe that all these picks can work out for us and make an impact. |
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| | #74 |
| Fighting off The Crazies Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 39
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato If what you say is true, then why didn't we win a championship in 2004? |
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| Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004
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| Re: Vinny Cerrato Quote:
Now, that can be mitigated to some extent by having elite special teams (which we didn't have in 2004) or if you have a defense that creates turnovers (which we didn't have in 2004). If we had an elite special teams unit and created turnovers then we would have won in 2004. Unfortunately, what we had was a tough defense that limited opponents yards but did not get many takeaways. Our special teams were average. Additionally, I think we had some questionable coaching that year to compound things. In general though - defense will win you championships. And someone else on this thread made the comment - just look at the current NFL champs. If they were all built on one side of the ball there is no way they would have stopped the machine. Incidentally, Justin Tuck was the 74th pick overall in his draft. Just food for thought - that while we were taking three receivers, there were probably talented pass rushers who could have helped us waiting to be drafted. | |
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