Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!

JoeRedskin · 04-28-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Great, just great. First I have to explain to everyone when Dirtbag is being sarcastic.

Now I have to do the same for your posts? Sigh...

Sorry, oh great long suffering one. Your job is hard enough. I'll stop with the sarcasm and just go back to being simply brilliant - oops, there I go again.

JoeRedskin · 04-28-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

There is no way we are going to cut anyone come june 1. On that day we will have 9.8 mil in salary cap space...that's as soon as Lloyd is designated a june 1st cut. I wish there were some way we could reverse that decision and not have him be a june 1st cut, but i dont think there is, we would still be 4.5 mil under the cap if he was a normal cut. ... We shot ourselves in the foot by designating Lloyd a June 1st cut, that's 5.3 mil we dont have on next years salary cap that we could have paid this year.

I was wondering the same thing. Schneed, Crazy is it possible to simply absorb the hit fully now? It seems to me that, since the savings wouldn't go into effect until June 1st and since Lloyd is actually off the roster, we should be able to simply notify the league that we will take the full hit now. I could see the league saying "no" if it were after the 1st as the bookkeeping would have already been in effect. But in this case, by redesignating it as a pre-June 1 cut, the benefit to both the team and player is unchanged.

Also, even if we were able to do so, would we still have enough cap room for the rookies?

Anybody know what type of deals the picks in the Skins slots got last year?

BrunellMVP? · 04-28-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

91, it's not a good idea to challenge the cap guys when it comes to anything that deals with the salary cap. They're right about 97% of the time.

I was about the type the same thing, except substitute 99.9% in for 97%, but I think what he was saying is that given our draft, we now have some players that were vital before that now are expendable- frost for instance (once the kid dominates him...), likely a WR as well...

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

No, but I was slightly gloating. Rubbing it in that the day I create a thread to predict cuts and roster moves, it happens very evening.

Rhodes is good, but we are cool without him. Plus, he smokes herb and gets caught. Either way, thats not a good look.

Well I think there has been further misunderstanding. Sure players will be cut after the draft. And still more leading up to June 1. But any players of consequence? Anybody that could do anything more for us than add a training camp body?

I assumed that if you started a thread about it, you'd want to know if we could acquire anybody to help us. I'd say no.

When GTripp and I said nobody gets cut, we meant the figurative nobody. Nobody gets cut from teams around this time of year anymore, unless they're a nobody.

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I was wondering the same thing. Schneed, Crazy is it possible to simply absorb the hit fully now? It seems to me that, since the savings wouldn't go into effect until June 1st and since Lloyd is actually off the roster, we should be able to simply notify the league that we will take the full hit now. I could see the league saying "no" if it were after the 1st as the bookkeeping would have already been in effect. But in this case, by redesignating it as a pre-June 1 cut, the benefit to both the team and player is unchanged.

Also, even if we were able to do so, would we still have enough cap room for the rookies?

Anybody know what type of deals the picks in the Skins slots got last year?

No you can't go back on it. Once you call him a post June 1 cut, you're committed to it.

But never fear, I do think the Skins will still make good use of that cap space. First, the Post recently ran a blurb saying they further guaranteed the 2008 and 2009 base salaries for Clinton Portis, which will have some sort of impact on the cap. Aside from that, I'd bet a lot of money that the Skins will extend a young player or two now this season in order to make use of that excess space, thereby allocating some of that money this year.

2nd round picks typically make about 1.5 million per season. Ballpark.

Drift Reality · 04-28-2008, 10:37 PM

I think we should trade Santana Moss for Jared Allen and Antwan Randle El for Kevin Williams. Maybe pick-up Bob Sanders after the June 1 cuts.

Discuss!

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 10:39 PM

I'd guess we shed Mathis and either Mix or Thrash. But not around June 1, I think Zorn will take them to camp and make the decision there.

That's the thing with our own players. Zorn's just getting used to them. Hell, he's having them wear nametags at minicamp this weeked. He's going to need time to evaluate them, and since there is no pressure from a cap perspective to make moves now or on June 1, I think he'll take as many guys as he can into training camp and evaluate them as long as possible before making the cuts in August.

Stuck in TX · 04-28-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I think we should trade Santana Moss for Jared Allen and Antwan Randle El for Kevin Williams. Maybe pick-up Bob Sanders after the June 1 cuts.

Discuss!

The only thing to discuss is that this is not Madden and that we will not be trading so drastically b/c we have a good team already. I really hope you are joking because you do not sound very intelligent.

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

The only thing to discuss is that this is not Madden and that we will not be trading so drastically b/c we have a good team already. I really hope you are joking because you do not sound very intelligent.

Your post get the

face.

Stuck in TX · 04-28-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Your post get the

face.

I get those alot dont I?

Schneed10 · 04-28-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

I get those alot dont I?

You just need a better sarcasm detector, that's all.

redskinsfanatic · 04-29-2008, 06:31 AM

i'd rather see cartwright leave before thrash.it would'nt surprise me to see sellers get cut too.did'nt zorn just recently sign another fullback???

SkinsFanSince91 · 04-29-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well I think there has been further misunderstanding. Sure players will be cut after the draft. And still more leading up to June 1. But any players of consequence? Anybody that could do anything more for us than add a training camp body?

I assumed that if you started a thread about it, you'd want to know if we could acquire anybody to help us. I'd say no.

When GTripp and I said nobody gets cut, we meant the figurative nobody. Nobody gets cut from teams around this time of year anymore, unless they're a nobody.

Point taken.

cochise · 04-29-2008, 03:30 PM

I thought Daniels did a decent job of stuffing the run since the skins defense did improve the past year in that catagory.

Dirtbag59 · 04-29-2008, 03:55 PM

My friend went crazy this weekend when he found out Shawn Alexander got released. He's like "WHAT? The Falcons better sign him. I mean he's better then Michael Turner." I then mentioned a few other guys who fell from grace and now he's covinced that NFL GM's are all idiots (which is part true but still). Anyway long story short he's going to make a team with Jervon Kearse, Shawn Alexander, Rod Coleman, Alge Crumpler, Warrick Dunn, and Patrick Keaney (somehow he got mixed up in all this).

04-28-2008, 10:37 PM	#36
Drift Reality Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 505	Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?! I think we should trade Santana Moss for Jared Allen and Antwan Randle El for Kevin Williams. Maybe pick-up Bob Sanders after the June 1 cuts. Discuss! __________________ Drift Reality DC City Blog New Influencer

04-28-2008, 10:39 PM	#37
Schneed10 RG Glee Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 33 Posts: 7,892	Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?! I'd guess we shed Mathis and either Mix or Thrash. But not around June 1, I think Zorn will take them to camp and make the decision there. That's the thing with our own players. Zorn's just getting used to them. Hell, he's having them wear nametags at minicamp this weeked. He's going to need time to evaluate them, and since there is no pressure from a cap perspective to make moves now or on June 1, I think he'll take as many guys as he can into training camp and evaluate them as long as possible before making the cuts in August. __________________ Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101

04-29-2008, 06:31 AM	#42
redskinsfanatic Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?! i'd rather see cartwright leave before thrash.it would'nt surprise me to see sellers get cut too.did'nt zorn just recently sign another fullback???

04-29-2008, 03:30 PM	#44
cochise Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 73	Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?! I thought Daniels did a decent job of stuffing the run since the skins defense did improve the past year in that catagory.

04-29-2008, 03:55 PM	#45
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 27 Posts: 13,952	Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?! My friend went crazy this weekend when he found out Shawn Alexander got released. He's like "WHAT? The Falcons better sign him. I mean he's better then Michael Turner." I then mentioned a few other guys who fell from grace and now he's covinced that NFL GM's are all idiots (which is part true but still). Anyway long story short he's going to make a team with Jervon Kearse, Shawn Alexander, Rod Coleman, Alge Crumpler, Warrick Dunn, and Patrick Keaney (somehow he got mixed up in all this). __________________ Flacco is 1337 Fanclub President

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