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Old 05-12-2008, 01:14 PM   #16
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re: No Death Penalty for Taylor's Killers; Fifth Suspect Charged; Suspect Pleads Guilty

A.M.F. to those sorry bastards who killed Sean. When they get in the prison and the inmates find out who they are, they will probably be taken care of accordingly - prison style. Whether that's getting their a**holes stretched out a whole lot or straight up killed, something will happen. Oh, and if you don't know what A.M.F. stands for, it means "Adios Mother F*cker"!
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:15 PM   #17
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Like the article says this was never going to be a death penalty case from the outset. There was no evidence that these idiots intended to murder Sean and the shooter was a minor. I say the two kids in the house at the time of the terrible confrontation which includes the shooter get first degree murder while the other two might get a lesser sentence. It's possible one of these idiots was even at the wrong place at the wrong time, but he will have a hell of a time trying to prove it.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:21 PM   #18
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I'd rather see these guys rot in prison anyway.
Did you know that it cost more to keep someone in prison for life, rather then putting them to death? I find this hard to believe.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:16 PM   #19
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They don't serve tougher time per se. High profile inmates are specially classified much like sex offenders are. They still have the same privileges as other inmates, they're just placed under a "keep separate" status. It's generally not in the best interest of the prison to have these types of inmates mixed in with the general population due to various security concerns.
Thanx LB,
Based on your vocation, you ad an interesting insight into such matters.
Speaking for myself, the whole Sean thing has left me......kind of empty on the matter. I want them them to pay, but I cannot get to zealous about it
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Did you know that it cost more to keep someone in prison for life, rather then putting them to death? I find this hard to believe.
I don't really understand what you are saying here. Are you stating as fact that it costs less to execute someone than to imprison them for life, or that you find it hard to believe it costs less to execute someone than to imprison them for life? In any case, as you might expect, this question of cost seems to divide largely along ideological lines (death penalty proponents say it is cheaper, death penalty opponents say it is more expensive). I haven't done the research so I can't say exactly, though a quick search suggests that more competent work seems to support the latter. Personally I think cost is a tangential issue and bigger problems exist with imbuing the state with the power to execute it's citizens, but as to the cost I'd have to defer to peer reviewed research to make a more accurate statement. I don't, however, think you can simply state as fact that it is cheaper to execute someone than to keep them in prison for life.
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Old 05-12-2008, 03:58 PM   #21
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i'm not a lawyer but i was reading the comments on the story on MSN. somebody stated that life in prison for a first time felon in florida means they can get out after serving 15 years. i realy hope this is not right. that means riviera would be out by the age of 31.
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While part of me wants all of these bastards to be given the death penalty because it was Sean Taylor they killed, the logic in me says it shouldn't happen. This wasn't premeditated and I would be happy knowing they got life in prison because in some ways a death sentence is just taking the easy way out.

Also, what constitutes a 1st degree murder? I'm not familiar with the differences between 1st/2nd/3rd degree murder.
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i'm not a lawyer but i was reading the comments on the story on MSN. somebody stated that life in prison for a first time felon in florida means they can get out after serving 15 years. i realy hope this is not right. that means riviera would be out by the age of 31.
That may or may not be true but if you get a life in prison without the possibility of parole then I do believe that means you are in prison for the rest of your life. Maybe if he got 15 to life he'd be eligible after serving 15 years.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:27 PM   #24
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That is bullshit they killed the man and now his poor daughter has to grow up without her dad so in my eyes they all should go in front of the firing squad
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Im sure.. gettin senticed to life in prison, wont be a long sentence for any of these (Fword) sticks
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Also, what constitutes a 1st degree murder? I'm not familiar with the differences between 1st/2nd/3rd degree murder.
Each state legislature determines what constitutes the difference between first, second, and third degree murder. As you might have guessed, first degree murder is the most serious of the three and typically involves premeditation and/or the death of a law enforcement officer. Second degree murder typically entails the intentional, but "non-premeditated" (a fine distinction), killing of another person. The types of acts that can constitute third degree murder vary wildly from state to state. However, I believe "crimes of passion" may fall within that category. So, for example, if I walk into my bedroom and catch Smootsmack with my wife and I kill him, I may face third degree murder instead of second degree murder due to the surrounding circumstances.

In any case, I think the whole discussion is rather moot ... at least with regard to the shooter. It's not exceeding difficult to prove felony murder in the case of a robbery. The shooter is royally f'ed and I cannot see the prosecution entering into a plea agreement whereunder the shooter serves less than 50 or so years. But, what do I know, I'm not a criminal lawyer.

On a related note, when should cost EVER be a factor in determining whether to execute someone or send them to life in prison? The notion that the cost of (not) executing a convict should have ANY impact on the decision to (not) put someone to death is crazy. That sort of thinking appeals to Chinese communists and wackjobs. Under no circumstances should any rational person (especially a true "conservative") consider such things when debating whether someone should be put to death.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:22 PM   #27
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To bad our tax dollars have to be wasted on keeping this vermin alive. Funny that we put so much value on the life of an individual, or individuals who they themselves put so little value on it. So an innocent man is murdered and we now all go to work to see that the individuals that murdered him live! You got to love it.
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Old 05-12-2008, 06:35 PM   #28
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Man, there is just no good to come out of this -- Sean Taylor's family intimately misses the person, and we miss the person and career of what was likely to be the G.O.A.T defensive player in the history of the NFL.

So sad.
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:22 PM   #29
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Its a shame they wont pursue the death penalty. The guy who pulled the trigger should have to live the rest of his life out in Maryland were he can be gangraped daily by very large Redskin fan inmates. I support the death penalty, and he was shot in his own home. If you cant be safe in your own home, where can you be safe? He should be executed. His buddys should get life.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:49 PM   #30
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If these guys don't deserve the death penalty then no one does. The death penalty seems to be reserved for cop and child killers these days. Fair enough I suppose. I hope these guys get to eat that nutri-loaf or whatever it is for the rest of their long lives.
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