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Old 05-13-2008, 09:42 AM   #31
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To bad our tax dollars have to be wasted on keeping this vermin alive. Funny that we put so much value on the life of an individual, or individuals who they themselves put so little value on it. So an innocent man is murdered and we now all go to work to see that the individuals that murdered him live! You got to love it.
When you get into the legal costs involved with a death penalty case (investigations, appeals, etc.) they actually end up being quite expensive vs. non-death penalty cases.

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Old 05-13-2008, 04:52 PM   #32
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When you get into the legal costs involved with a death penalty case (investigations, appeals, etc.) they actually end up being quite expensive vs. non-death penalty cases.

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A big reason why that happens is the outcry of people who want to fight to keep a murderer alive, when it's a clear cut case there shouldn't be any more money allocated than any other case. The fact that the cost to execute someone does escalate needs to be rectified.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:07 PM   #33
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So many "clear cut" cases have ended in putting innocent people to death. Just saying.
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So many "clear cut" cases have ended in putting innocent people to death. Just saying.
I actually know a guy who was coerced into confessing to a murder that he did not commit (DNA evidence proved as much). He was serving a life sentence. He was exonerated after spending 10 years in prison. Lord knows what would have happened to him had he been given a death sentence. The death penalty needs to be scrutinized and most states need to revise their death penalty "systems."

But, I still think there are instances in which people deserve the death penalty (e.g., Timothy McVeigh, Jeffrey Dahlmer, and KSM). I also do not know of any people who were put to death wrongfully.
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I hate to see young kids throw theirs life away I believe they should rot in prison for life I don't believe in the death penalty.
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I actually know a guy who was coerced into confessing to a murder that he did not commit (DNA evidence proved as much). He was serving a life sentence. He was exonerated after spending 10 years in prison. Lord knows what would have happened to him had he been given a death sentence. The death penalty needs to be scrutinized and most states need to revise their death penalty "systems."

But, I still think there are instances in which people deserve the death penalty (e.g., Timothy McVeigh, Jeffrey Dahlmer, and KSM). I also do not know of any people who were put to death wrongfully.
Who's KSM?
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Who's KSM?
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11. I probably should have spelled his name out in the previous post.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:04 PM   #38
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I'm the biggest Sean Taylor fan ever, and what happened to him makes me sick to my stomach every time I think about it. But I have to say the thought of 16year olds being put to death runs a close second to making me just as sick. The whole thing makes me sick... because itís all about wasted lives.. I can only hope Sean's horrific tragedy will create awareness that ALL ife is a blessing and not something to be taken for granted.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:08 AM   #39
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I don't want to come across heartless but an eye for an eye. When that thug pulled the trigger he knew who's house he was in. We all know the story of Taylor giving him weekend jobs and they were criminal enouph to rob him, and kill him. I am really pissed they won't face the same fate he did. Not to ramble but the one kids grandmother went to court with a "free my son" shirt on it kind of twists the knife.
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FYI, a fifth person has been charged.
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I wonder what his role in the whole act was, was he with them in the house or what? If he was then why did it take this long to get him?
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Its odd how once the death penalty is off the table another suspect comes foward
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Its odd how once the death penalty is off the table another suspect comes foward
The Supreme Court has already ruled that it is unconstitutional to execute anyone for a crime committed while they were a minor, so the death penalty was never a possibility for the shooter, Eric Rivera, (17 at the time) or this individual (who is apparently 16). Even when the execution of minors was possible there were only three states (Texas, Oklahoma, and Virginia if memory serves) that had actually executed a minor in recent memory.

5-4 Supreme Court Abolishes Juvenile Executions (washingtonpost.com)
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The Supreme Court has already ruled that it is unconstitutional to execute anyone for a crime committed while they were a minor, so the death penalty was never a possibility for the shooter, Eric Rivera, (17 at the time) or this individual (who is apparently 16). Even when the execution of minors was possible there were only three states (Texas, Oklahoma, and Virginia if memory serves) that had actually executed a minor in recent memory.

5-4 Supreme Court Abolishes Juvenile Executions (washingtonpost.com)
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When you get into the legal costs involved with a death penalty case (investigations, appeals, etc.) they actually end up being quite expensive vs. non-death penalty cases.

Costs of the Death Penalty
You gotta be kidding me?? Not trying to turn this into a political debate but when you kill someone in cold blood you should be thrown into a alligator pit and it should be broadcasted on pay per view. Do away with all of this bullshit appeal nonsense. I bet that would stop all of this gun violence.
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