Louis Riddick Is Gone

Angry · 05-13-2008, 08:36 AM

Does anyone here get let go by the owner of the company or the CEO? I think that it is the norm that people get let go by their supervisor. That is exactly what happened in this case. The fact that they Campbell was once subordinate to Riddick is circumstantial. JLC will do anything to stir the "Melrose Place" plot. We all know that he is about to be canned soon too. He is obviously doing everything he can to scrap together interesting pieces for the Post.

FRPLG · 05-13-2008, 09:43 AM

I think the fact all of JLC sources are employees who seemingly have a bent against Snyder really tint his thoughts. Put someone in an environment where employees bitch and moan and complain and they'll think everything is completely screwed up. Put them in a situation where everyone is happy then they'll think everything is great. In JLC's case though he gets to CHOOSE who he hangs with(Ie his sources) and they all lead him to believe the place is crap. It is the exact opposite of what Maske perceived when he was the lad beat guy and the Post fired him for being to positive.

I guess the Skins' penchant for restricting access is the main cause here since they make it hard for the local media to access a balance of employees rather than making media find sources who'll always tend to be nagative since they are fundamentally going against procedure.

SmootSmack · 05-13-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

what exactly was his job? i know what the job title was. but what did he do?

He oversaw all pro scouting. Meaning off and in-season free agent workouts/signings, scouting from other leagues (Chris Wilson), trades.

Schneed10 · 05-13-2008, 11:43 AM

Some have touched on it. My thing is ultimately, I care if the Redskins win or lose. I don't care how they do it. If they do it by buying every player in sight and they win a title, I'll be happy. If they forego free agency and win a title, I'll be happy. They can win it eating spam, they can win it with green eggs and ham, they can win it with a coach named Sam.

Ws and Ls folks.

Admit it, come Sundays in the fall, you're all going to give two craps about how Louis Riddick was let go. Hell, come Sundays in the fall, you'll be like Riddick who???

Bad PR move. Who the frick cares. Will it affect wins and losses? No, then what freakin ever.

Mattyk72 · 05-13-2008, 12:06 PM

I don't even buy that it's a bad PR move. It's barely a blip on the NFL news wire today.

The Redskins aren't the only team in the league that fires scouts.

skinsfan69 · 05-13-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Some have touched on it. My thing is ultimately, I care if the Redskins win or lose. I don't care how they do it. If they do it by buying every player in sight and they win a title, I'll be happy. If they forego free agency and win a title, I'll be happy. They can win it eating spam, they can win it with green eggs and ham, they can win it with a coach named Sam.

Ws and Ls folks.

Admit it, come Sundays in the fall, you're all going to give two craps about how Louis Riddick was let go. Hell, come Sundays in the fall, you'll be like Riddick who???

Bad PR move. Who the frick cares. Will it affect wins and losses? No, then what freakin ever.

LOL! Yeah but it's May and there isn't shit to talk about. Even NFL Network is getting tough to watch right now. I mean they are showing repeats of the Cheifs in training camp and I'm so hard up for some football I watch it. , even though I've already seen it. Any news is good news. Even if it's bad or boring news.

SmootSmack · 05-13-2008, 12:40 PM

It'd be nice if JLC applied the same amount of scrutiny and "inside info" on the promotion process of Eric Schaffer as he did on the firing of Louis Riddick.

SC Skins Fan · 05-13-2008, 01:36 PM

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freddyg12 · 05-13-2008, 01:57 PM

Everyone's been jumpin all over JLC lately about his opinion of the draft, the coaching search & now this. True, he only can gain access to so many people at redskins park & his views are of course affected by them, but he at least he does talk to somebody there.

He also talks to other nfl people, who if you read the blog regulary, have both criticized & complimented the skins over the years. e.g. he quoted a source last summer that said putting Heyer in at LT during the preseason was crazy (which I can agree with). The same source later in the year said Buges had done a good job of coahing Heyer up.

Is it still a surprise to anyone that people from other teams have negative views of the Skins management? Is it still a mystery to any of us here why the Skins have the rep they do under Snyder? It shouldn't be, and while I give the danny et al credit for adjusting over the years, I still think it's too early to say that they've changed their ways & are building a consistent, winning team. Are there good signs of improvement? Yes, but things would look a lot different now to me if we'd made the deal w/Cincy.

JLC, if you believe him, has seen a good deal of the danny's dysfunctional moves over the years. He's also been told one thing by skins mgmt., only to see things go differently. Is he too jaded to see anything good now? I really don't think so, I think he's doing what most any person would in his shoes; be skeptical.

I hope Vinny is really good at what he does, and I also believe he deserves a fair chance at running the show. I'm not one of those that was always calling for his head, because I've never been able to tell who is calling most of the shots anyway. Now that it appears he's running the show, I'll be as patient as possible, likewise w/Zorn. However, I won't be the least bit surprised if & when a lot of people here start calling out vinny again.

Yeah, firing somebody in this biz is no big deal & I"m not saying it's "bad PR." But I will go so far as to say that it's not unreasonable to look at moves like this and associate them w/a past pattern of behavior that was unhealthy as JLC did.

If I would criticize JLC for anything it would be that he didn't elaborate enough in the past or in this article about Gibbs' coming close to replacing some of the scouting dept.

Paintrain · 05-13-2008, 02:11 PM

I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.

FRPLG · 05-13-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It'd be nice if JLC applied the same amount of scrutiny and "inside info" on the promotion process of Eric Schaffer as he did on the firing of Louis Riddick.

Novel idea. It goes to the the crowd he runs with when it comes to the Skins. They see negativity in everything so that's what he knows. He is set up to think this front office is a sham by those inside who wanted it to go another way in terms of the coaching search or who plan just don't like Snyder/Cerratto. I don't blame the guy all that much but it is tiresome. His blog at one point was a must read throughout the year.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 05-13-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

IIt's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.

You must know my wife....LOL

T.O.Killa · 05-13-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.

I am with you. I still check his site, because it gives us constant Redskins news, but I am sick of him critizing the Redskins organization. They are getiing better, with experience. We have had more success in the last four years, than the previous fifteen.

djnemo65 · 05-13-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time.

That's well said. Who has been more critical of the Redskins' recent free agent acquisitions than JLC? I don't think JLC has held true to his bargain to be less critical as the team becomes more successful (they have, he hasn't) and this is another example of that.

skinsfan69 · 05-13-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

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I guess someone had to take the fall for Lloyd and Arch. It's Vinny's show now so he is the one guy we can all point to.

05-13-2008, 08:36 AM	#16 (permalink)
Angry The Eccentric Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Source (Matrix Refrence) Posts: 3,079	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone Does anyone here get let go by the owner of the company or the CEO? I think that it is the norm that people get let go by their supervisor. That is exactly what happened in this case. The fact that they Campbell was once subordinate to Riddick is circumstantial. JLC will do anything to stir the "Melrose Place" plot. We all know that he is about to be canned soon too. He is obviously doing everything he can to scrap together interesting pieces for the Post. __________________ I took mama to the toilet.

05-13-2008, 09:43 AM	#17 (permalink)
FRPLG Somehow, not a mod Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,149	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone I think the fact all of JLC sources are employees who seemingly have a bent against Snyder really tint his thoughts. Put someone in an environment where employees bitch and moan and complain and they'll think everything is completely screwed up. Put them in a situation where everyone is happy then they'll think everything is great. In JLC's case though he gets to CHOOSE who he hangs with(Ie his sources) and they all lead him to believe the place is crap. It is the exact opposite of what Maske perceived when he was the lad beat guy and the Post fired him for being to positive. I guess the Skins' penchant for restricting access is the main cause here since they make it hard for the local media to access a balance of employees rather than making media find sources who'll always tend to be nagative since they are fundamentally going against procedure. __________________ I will miss you Sean forever but I'll remember you more.

05-13-2008, 11:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
Schneed10 I'll Salary Cap Your Ass Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 5,343	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone Some have touched on it. My thing is ultimately, I care if the Redskins win or lose. I don't care how they do it. If they do it by buying every player in sight and they win a title, I'll be happy. If they forego free agency and win a title, I'll be happy. They can win it eating spam, they can win it with green eggs and ham, they can win it with a coach named Sam. Ws and Ls folks. Admit it, come Sundays in the fall, you're all going to give two craps about how Louis Riddick was let go. Hell, come Sundays in the fall, you'll be like Riddick who??? Bad PR move. Who the frick cares. Will it affect wins and losses? No, then what freakin ever. __________________ Summary of Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Detailed Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101 Vinny, vidi, vici.

05-13-2008, 12:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mattyk72 Hall of Fame Admin Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 28,939	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone I don't even buy that it's a bad PR move. It's barely a blip on the NFL news wire today. The Redskins aren't the only team in the league that fires scouts. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Hail to the Hall of Famer \| Warpath Shop \| Burgundy Army

05-13-2008, 12:40 PM	#22 (permalink)
SmootSmack Illuminated Dignitary Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 20,505	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone It'd be nice if JLC applied the same amount of scrutiny and "inside info" on the promotion process of Eric Schaffer as he did on the firing of Louis Riddick. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

05-13-2008, 01:36 PM	#23 (permalink)
SC Skins Fan "Beware the Terrible Simplifiers" Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,025	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone More here ... Front Office Shake-Up - Redskins Insider __________________ "In this case no wonder the oppressed should rebel, and they will continue to rebel and raise disturbance until their civil rights are fully restored to them and all partial distinctions, exclusions and incapacitations are removed." --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776

05-13-2008, 01:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
freddyg12 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,075	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone Everyone's been jumpin all over JLC lately about his opinion of the draft, the coaching search & now this. True, he only can gain access to so many people at redskins park & his views are of course affected by them, but he at least he does talk to somebody there. He also talks to other nfl people, who if you read the blog regulary, have both criticized & complimented the skins over the years. e.g. he quoted a source last summer that said putting Heyer in at LT during the preseason was crazy (which I can agree with). The same source later in the year said Buges had done a good job of coahing Heyer up. Is it still a surprise to anyone that people from other teams have negative views of the Skins management? Is it still a mystery to any of us here why the Skins have the rep they do under Snyder? It shouldn't be, and while I give the danny et al credit for adjusting over the years, I still think it's too early to say that they've changed their ways & are building a consistent, winning team. Are there good signs of improvement? Yes, but things would look a lot different now to me if we'd made the deal w/Cincy. JLC, if you believe him, has seen a good deal of the danny's dysfunctional moves over the years. He's also been told one thing by skins mgmt., only to see things go differently. Is he too jaded to see anything good now? I really don't think so, I think he's doing what most any person would in his shoes; be skeptical. I hope Vinny is really good at what he does, and I also believe he deserves a fair chance at running the show. I'm not one of those that was always calling for his head, because I've never been able to tell who is calling most of the shots anyway. Now that it appears he's running the show, I'll be as patient as possible, likewise w/Zorn. However, I won't be the least bit surprised if & when a lot of people here start calling out vinny again. Yeah, firing somebody in this biz is no big deal & I"m not saying it's "bad PR." But I will go so far as to say that it's not unreasonable to look at moves like this and associate them w/a past pattern of behavior that was unhealthy as JLC did. If I would criticize JLC for anything it would be that he didn't elaborate enough in the past or in this article about Gibbs' coming close to replacing some of the scouting dept.

05-13-2008, 02:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
Paintrain The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,670	Re: Louis Riddick Is Gone I don't really see how this is even worthy of the whole article JLC did. His ax to grind with Snyderatto is getting pretty tiresome. One of the biggest complaints about the Redskins is how poorly they've done in free agency, who was in charge of the department that scouted other pro's? Riddick. Now it's an issue that he's gone? It's like arguing with a woman, the only right answer is what suits their argument at the time. __________________ Jason Campbell 8/7/08-"I'm just going to go out and have a Pro Bowl-type season and let everything ride." I love it!

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