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| Gleaming Turds since 2004 ![]() Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? one of his grandkids had cancer and he wanted to be there cause he already missed so much of his life. he was also happier with the freedom of time nascar ownership gives him, and the ease with which he can incorporate his family there (ie grandkids playing in his office while he works).
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| Gleaming Turds since 2004 ![]() Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Quote:
the whole offense stunk, portis and moss were having issues, as was the OL, and they were adjusting to saunders playbook still. after everyone got on the same page it worked a little better. everyone wants to win, so i'm not sure what all these smoking man conspiracy theories are really for...
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| Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005
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| Mess w/the bull & U get the Zorns ![]() Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Beach
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Quote:
Collins only started due to JC's injury. Gibbs traditionally doesn't start rookie QBs, so the first year JC really had little to no chance to see the field other than by injury. So your statement about Brunell/Collins starting 2/3 of the games since Campbell has been here, while close to factually accurate, doesn't paint the correct picture. Gibbs and Saunders offenses come from the "Air Coryell" tree. The Air Coryell and WCO are not similar at all. Lloyd and ARE were both Saunders guys. NFL Preview: Al Saunders on the attack for Redskins | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com "The free agents had to be able to get deep, to draw enough attention from linebackers, corners and safeties to give mercurial Santana Moss more man-to-man coverage or make room for Cooley's new, deeper pass routes. Once the defense is spread, Portis' chances of gashing them with breakaway runs would increase dramatically. The two players Saunders thought offered the best chance to make that happen: San Francisco's Brandon Lloyd and Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle El. In mid-March, Washington traded for Lloyd and signed Randle El. "He pushed hard for them," said Bob Saunders, Al's son and a Redskins assistant. "Everyone knows what Brandon can do on the football field, his speed, the acrobatic catches. With Randle El, it's what he can do in the slot, the double moves, his cutting ability. Getting them really expanded the offense."
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| Jason Campbell Fan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Carolina
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| Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bluffton, South Carolina
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Honestly I don't think I have seen enough from JC to call him the long-term solution just yet. He still has a few kinks that need to be worked out, and most importantly he needs to win. I say we wait at least another year before we extend on JC. |
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| The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? The impression I've gotten from the Redskins community is that theres three main views on Jason. 1. Jason Campbell sucks and ended up being a waste of a 1st round pick, Colt Brenen/Todd Collins is the future 2. Jason Campbell is like, the best Quarterback in the NFL 3. Jason Campbell is still developing but he's going to be good I'm obviously fall under the third group, and why not? QB's take a while to develop and a 77 QB rating for a QB in his second year as a starter isn't bad at all. Of course I would have loved to see Campbell hit 85, but theres still a chance this year with an improved offense and a great QB coach for JC to take the next step in his development. Personally I think theres a good amount of teams around the league that would like to have JC as their starting QB. He probably won't end up being Peyton Manning, but he seems to be developing at a rate where he will have a nice long career in this league.
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| Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hampton Roads VA
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| Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2005
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? I'm more inclined to say no. As much as I hope that Jason is the answer at qb, he has yet to instill that confidence at the position. This is his 4th year to show massive improvement from years past. Barring any injury he should be given every opportuntiy to do well. But, it depends on him, he killed us at the end of games with untimely ints., and that does nothing to prove to your teamates that you can come from behind and win games. He also needs to manage games better, and hopefully with a new coaching philosyphy that can be done. This season will be a litmus test for him and others.
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| Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: City of Manassas, Virginia
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Quote:
Any professional quarterback should have certain intangibles that he can bring to any offense. He's getting paid a professional salary, he should be able to adapt without excuses. I've never heard Campbell complain about it himself and I don't like idea of people making exuses on his behalf.
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| Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: dc area
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Quote:
When did Collins put up 35 points? He had 5 TD in four games. The Giants game he had zero TD's. You have a QB with a 102 rating only putting up only 5 TD in four games? Look at Brady, Manning, and even Romo. They have put up 4 TDs in one game. Lets be real the offense was horrible last year. The play calling was horrible whether Collins or Campbell was in the game. I don't think Sammy was just blaming the WR's. I think he was saying Campbell had a lot of help with those seven losses. Also the WR's were healthy when they played with Collins. Also Campbell wasn't the only skins QB who struggled with Saunders offense, Brunell struggled also. | |
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| Jason Campbell: Franchise QB ![]() Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Quote:
I'm sure you'd be very successful.
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| #21 ![]() Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY
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| Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Quote:
In Campbell's 13 starts he averaged 217.4 yards passing per game. The offense as a whole averaged 358 yards per game during that time. As for Collins in his 4 regular season games he averaged 213.5 yards passing per game. Meanwhile the offense averaged 343 yards per game during that time. The biggest discrepancy came in points per game. Campbell averaged 17.6 (slightly skewed due to 0 points scored in the game vs. Chicago when he went down) in the lineup while Collins averaged 26.3. I'm guessing a good reason for this could have been more aggressive playcalling in the redzone when Collins was in the lineup. But other than that your opinion that Campbell couldn't move the ball doesn't really make sense. He was clearly able to move the ball slightly better than Collins, but it appears that Collins was more effective at getting the ball into the end zone. Again, perhaps a function of the playcalling in the redzone. | |
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