Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Redskins Locker Room


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-28-2008, 07:00 AM   #61
Playmaker
 
irish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,757
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
I thought it was pretty obvious that the playcalling was more aggressive with Collins in the lineup and rightfully so. He knew the offense inside and out, while Campbell was in his 2nd season in it.

If it wasn't playcalling then what was it? Because the stats simply don't support your claim that JC couldn't move the ball.
I agree that the playcalling was more agressive but thats because TC could handle it while JC couldnt. JC has to improve his throwing technique and his decision making speed. Last year TC was light years faster so we'll have to see if JC can make any improvement. I really think this is a make or break year for JC. He has been in the league awhile now and this is not the coaching staff that gave up a bunch of picks to draft him, he has to perform or I really believe Zorn & Co will look for another QB.

BTW, I can state for the record that I am not and never have been hogtimus prime.
irish is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 05-28-2008, 03:23 PM   #62
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 86,122
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

You have to wonder though... was the conservative nature of the play calling justified with Campbell in the lineup?

Because when the reins were loosened up a bit and he was allowed to sling it around in the no-huddle and call his own plays, he played very well.

I think Gibbs was perhaps a little too protective of him. I don't think we'll see the same from Zorn though.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2008, 08:58 PM   #63
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 27
Posts: 15,994
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattyk72 View Post
You have to wonder though... was the conservative nature of the play calling justified with Campbell in the lineup?

Because when the reins were loosened up a bit and he was allowed to sling it around in the no-huddle and call his own plays, he played very well.

I think Gibbs was perhaps a little too protective of him. I don't think we'll see the same from Zorn though.
Officially though, I don't think it made a big difference.

He would have been just as successful if they opened it up, more INT's balanced out by higher YPA.

I think they were conservative due to the injuries more than anything. When you have injuries, you absolutely have to play it more conservative. The thought process was that if they could get a healthy team going into the playoffs, Campbell might be able to shine there.

As it was, he didn't make it that far. Thank you Jason Fabini.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2008, 07:09 AM   #64
Playmaker
 
irish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,757
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTripp0012 View Post
Officially though, I don't think it made a big difference.

He would have been just as successful if they opened it up, more INT's balanced out by higher YPA.

I think they were conservative due to the injuries more than anything. When you have injuries, you absolutely have to play it more conservative. The thought process was that if they could get a healthy team going into the playoffs, Campbell might be able to shine there.

As it was, he didn't make it that far. Thank you Jason Fabini.
I dont think Gibbs was protecting him, I think Gibbs saw that JC couldnt make the decisions quick enough. They wouldnt have been as successful because JC just couldnt have handled it.

As mentioned above, we will see with Zorn.
irish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2008, 10:36 AM   #65
Living Legend
 
GTripp0012's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
Age: 27
Posts: 15,994
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by irish View Post
I dont think Gibbs was protecting him, I think Gibbs saw that JC couldnt make the decisions quick enough. They wouldnt have been as successful because JC just couldnt have handled it.

As mentioned above, we will see with Zorn.
Injuries though, #1 reason for sure.

After that, you may be right who knows.

It's possible that you could be totally right and Gibbs totally wrong and Campbell has a monster year. Could happen.
__________________
according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
GTripp0012 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2008, 10:51 AM   #66
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 86,122
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Good article, note this section:

Quote:
Jason Campbell went 8-for-11 for 88 yards during that stretch, using an approach that was strikingly different from the usual Gibbs philosophy. Instead of emphasizing the run and taking the occasional deep shot, the quarterback moved the team down the field with a mixture of runs and short passes, borrowing a page from the West Coast offense.
Redskins players lobby Gibbs to go no-huddle: 'We went out and made it work' - USATODAY.com
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2008, 09:24 AM   #67
The Starter
 
skinsnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,263
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

test post, didn't see post 61-67...it was showing a page 5 when I hovered over it said post 61-71, but when I clicked on page 5 it it took me to page 4..there must have been no real posts there on 5 yet...now page 5 is real because of this post.
Confused
__________________
I hate Dallas...Period

Last edited by skinsnut; 05-30-2008 at 09:27 AM.
skinsnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2008, 04:50 PM   #68
Camp Scrub
 
KokoMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Global
Posts: 28
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

What I really want to see is how Zorn deals with Campbell's very, very slow delivery. Unless Campbell can make quicker decisions and unload more quickly, he won't go to the next level. If he does get to the next level, pay him. If not, don't pay top dollar for average play. Hold off for now.
KokoMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 08:29 PM   #69
The Starter
 
skinsnut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,263
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsnut View Post
Last year we extended contracts for key players...such as Cooley and Betts.
These moves were highly praised.
I know a few here think Campbell may not be our long term answer because of his winning record....However, I do believe he is solid and will improve.

The best time to buy is when perceived value is low.
The last thing we want to do is wait until after he has a breakout year to double his value.

At worst, he will not improve...which is still better than any QB the Skins have had since Brad Johnson...(excluding Collins' 4 game push and Brunell for a short time)

What do you think?
Should we use our 07 cap space to lock up JC?

Schneed....what is his likely value now and can it work with the cap space we have?
Well folks...most respondants to this offseason thread wanted to wait and see before extending Campbell....
The first quarter of the year is over....

I say...time to extend Campbell, what do you think now?
__________________
I hate Dallas...Period
skinsnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 08:36 PM   #70
Camp Scrub
 
RedTempleSkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, N.C.
Posts: 36
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsnut View Post
Well folks...most respondants to this offseason thread wanted to wait and see before extending Campbell....
The first quarter of the year is over....

I say...time to extend Campbell, what do you think now?
We need to do it sooner than later.
RedTempleSkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 08:39 PM   #71
Special Teams
 
tatrave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Morgantown, WV
Age: 30
Posts: 139
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

I agree do it on the plane ride home from Dallas haha!
tatrave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 08:46 PM   #72
The Starter
 
Redskin Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Montgomery, AL
Posts: 1,532
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

He has proven himself anyway but after he lead the team and beat the cowgirls yessir extent him
__________________
WIN, LOSE OR DRAW I'M A DIE-HARD REDSKIN FAN!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
First they ban winning...now this?
Redskin Warrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 08:51 PM   #73
Playmaker
 
SouperMeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Leesburg, VA
Age: 50
Posts: 3,154
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Campbell is playing with so much poise right now, yet we need to remember that he's only beginning to grasp the WCO. The more successful he becomes, the more he can demand for his next contract. I don't know what the cap situation looks like, but if we can extend Campbell's contract during the season, we should.
SouperMeister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 09:02 PM   #74
Impact Rookie
 
horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: long island
Posts: 898
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

While we're at extend Zorn all those assisstant years have paid off this guy can coach!
__________________
Hail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2008, 09:04 PM   #75
Camp Scrub
 
RedTempleSkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Charlotte, N.C.
Posts: 36
Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouperMeister View Post
Campbell is playing with so much poise right now, yet we need to remember that he's only beginning to grasp the WCO. The more successful he becomes, the more he can demand for his next contract. I don't know what the cap situation looks like, but if we can extend Campbell's contract during the season, we should.
All great points, this is why we need to do this now. If we wait and he continues to get better in this offense, Dan will be writing his biggest check since he bought the team.
RedTempleSkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28854 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25