Time to extend Jason Campbell?

skinsnut · 05-21-2008, 02:01 PM

Last year we extended contracts for key players...such as Cooley and Betts.
These moves were highly praised.
I know a few here think Campbell may not be our long term answer because of his winning record....However, I do believe he is solid and will improve.

The best time to buy is when perceived value is low.
The last thing we want to do is wait until after he has a breakout year to double his value.

At worst, he will not improve...which is still better than any QB the Skins have had since Brad Johnson...(excluding Collins' 4 game push and Brunell for a short time)

What do you think?
Should we use our 07 cap space to lock up JC?

Schneed....what is his likely value now and can it work with the cap space we have?

Mattyk72 · 05-21-2008, 02:04 PM

I would look to extend him sometime during the season as long as he's shown that he's taking his game to the next level.

steveo395 · 05-21-2008, 02:12 PM

There is still 2 years left on his deal. Lets see how he does this season.

GMScud · 05-21-2008, 02:13 PM

If I'm not mistaken JC is slated to earn a pretty large base salary this year. I wouldn't mind extending him, but he really hasn't done anything yet to warrant a hefty extension/signing bonus.

T.O.Killa · 05-21-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

If I'm not mistaken JC is slated to earn a pretty large base salary this year. I wouldn't mind extending him, but he really hasn't done anything yet to warrant a hefty extension/signing bonus.

I agree, but if he has a break out season, then we may be in trouble. I am not sure what the rules are, but I would like to see them extend Montgomery, Golston and Doughty, before they become restricted free agents.

wilsowilso · 05-21-2008, 02:17 PM

JC probably isn't in any rush to sign anything right now. He has the next two years to have a breakout season and that's all he needs to get a very good deal. I hope he also knows that he can't regress or he will be watching from the bench.

hooskins · 05-21-2008, 02:20 PM

Yea like others I see absolutely no need to rush extending his contract. Right now he hasn't proven he deserves it and both sides(JC and the Front Office) know that.

freddyg12 · 05-21-2008, 02:22 PM

Until the OCHO 5 stories, I figured that they were getting cap space in order to re-sign JC. Maybe that was part of it as well.

This labor problem doesn't bode well for re-signing him this year. IN 2 years, unless a new deal is struck, they could be looking at no cap. His agent would tell him to wait I would think.

skinsnut · 05-21-2008, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I agree, but if he has a break out season, then we may be in trouble. I am not sure what the rules are, but I would like to see them extend Montgomery, Golston and Doughty, before they become restricted free agents.

Montgomery, I can see...the other 2 are easily replaced and none are pressing issues right now...
The cost risk of a breakout season for these 3 vs JC is significant.

The benefit of extending Campbell before a breakout saves a tremendous amount more than a breakout for these guys....and there is still flop potential for Golson and Doughty.

skinsnut · 05-21-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Until the OCHO 5 stories, I figured that they were getting cap space in order to re-sign JC. Maybe that was part of it as well.

This labor problem doesn't bode well for re-signing him this year. IN 2 years, unless a new deal is struck, they could be looking at no cap. His agent would tell him to wait I would think.

This is a good point....good thing Skins have most of our folks locked up....
I am worried about how this new labor problem will affect ability to extend contracts.....heck....that could potentially affect us signing free agents or making trades too.

LandrySlice · 05-21-2008, 02:35 PM

no need to lock jc up yet, and definetly noy doughty

Schneed10 · 05-21-2008, 02:43 PM

Jason Campbell is under contract for two more seasons, 2008 and 2009. His base salaries those years are $1.2 million and $800K respectively.

Deciding whether or not to extend him largely depends upon your opinion of him. Is he your franchise QB of the future or not?

I'd think right now he'd garner a deal similar to the one Derek Anderson just got from the Browns. He got 3 years, $24 million, with $13 million of it guaranteed. Campbell seems like a guy with a ton of promise who you can trust to lead your team, but he hasn't shown enough to commit to him for the long term. Hence the Derek Anderson comparison - a three year deal would seem to fit. I think that's a solid comparison in terms of value.

That said, we couldn't afford that contract on our cap right now. $24 million over 3 years, even if backloaded, is going to eat up too much space this coming season for us to still fit our rookies under the cap. So we'd probably have to wait until 2009 anyway.

But the Browns made that move because Anderson was a pending free agent. Since Campbell's under contract, and given our cap situation, it makes more sense to me that we let him play under his current contract this year. Then in 2009 we'll have one more season on which to judge, and at that point we can make the decision to extend him or move on.

dmek25 · 05-21-2008, 03:44 PM

im with schneed on this. we need to see more out of Campbell before we lock up any more money in him. and with him already under contract for the next 2 seasons, at a good cap figure, lets make him earn his money

Rajmahal33 · 05-21-2008, 05:04 PM

Don't count on JC gettin re-signed before the new coaching staff has a chance to see what he does in a real game? This is one of the times when the FO and the coaching staff has to come together to evaluate which direction we want to go as a team. I realize there aren't many franchise QB's out there to choose from but maybe Jim Zorn doesn't see JC as the perfect fit for his system, which Gibbs did view him as, just yet.

Daseal · 05-21-2008, 06:42 PM

The poor guy always has a new offense to run. Give him a year in Zorn's offense, and let him decide.

05-21-2008, 02:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
skinsnut The Starter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 1,205	Time to extend Jason Campbell? Last year we extended contracts for key players...such as Cooley and Betts. These moves were highly praised. I know a few here think Campbell may not be our long term answer because of his winning record....However, I do believe he is solid and will improve. The best time to buy is when perceived value is low. The last thing we want to do is wait until after he has a breakout year to double his value. At worst, he will not improve...which is still better than any QB the Skins have had since Brad Johnson...(excluding Collins' 4 game push and Brunell for a short time) What do you think? Should we use our 07 cap space to lock up JC? Schneed....what is his likely value now and can it work with the cap space we have? __________________ I hate Dallas...Period

05-21-2008, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
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05-21-2008, 02:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,474	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? There is still 2 years left on his deal. Lets see how he does this season.

05-21-2008, 02:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
GMScud Premium On Points Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,805	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? If I'm not mistaken JC is slated to earn a pretty large base salary this year. I wouldn't mind extending him, but he really hasn't done anything yet to warrant a hefty extension/signing bonus. __________________ SEC Football -Unlike any other. GO GATORS! "We applied for a job at Giant and couldn't get it because we can't sack groceries." -Greg Blache I feel better now knowing that I am a loser with no self control. -Sponsered by Angry

05-21-2008, 02:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
wilsowilso The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,571	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? JC probably isn't in any rush to sign anything right now. He has the next two years to have a breakout season and that's all he needs to get a very good deal. I hope he also knows that he can't regress or he will be watching from the bench.

05-21-2008, 02:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
hooskins the hypocrite hater Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Posts: 5,507	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Yea like others I see absolutely no need to rush extending his contract. Right now he hasn't proven he deserves it and both sides(JC and the Front Office) know that. __________________ "im pretty sure the people that work for that website hate liberals so much that even when they are driving they would make three rights before thinking about going left." -Duffman003

05-21-2008, 02:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
freddyg12 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,109	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Until the OCHO 5 stories, I figured that they were getting cap space in order to re-sign JC. Maybe that was part of it as well. This labor problem doesn't bode well for re-signing him this year. IN 2 years, unless a new deal is struck, they could be looking at no cap. His agent would tell him to wait I would think.

05-21-2008, 02:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
LandrySlice Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arlington,Va Posts: 107	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? no need to lock jc up yet, and definetly noy doughty __________________ ME SO ZORNY, ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME!

05-21-2008, 02:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Schneed10 I'll Salary Cap Your Ass Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Havertown, PA Posts: 5,530	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Jason Campbell is under contract for two more seasons, 2008 and 2009. His base salaries those years are $1.2 million and $800K respectively. Deciding whether or not to extend him largely depends upon your opinion of him. Is he your franchise QB of the future or not? I'd think right now he'd garner a deal similar to the one Derek Anderson just got from the Browns. He got 3 years, $24 million, with $13 million of it guaranteed. Campbell seems like a guy with a ton of promise who you can trust to lead your team, but he hasn't shown enough to commit to him for the long term. Hence the Derek Anderson comparison - a three year deal would seem to fit. I think that's a solid comparison in terms of value. That said, we couldn't afford that contract on our cap right now. $24 million over 3 years, even if backloaded, is going to eat up too much space this coming season for us to still fit our rookies under the cap. So we'd probably have to wait until 2009 anyway. But the Browns made that move because Anderson was a pending free agent. Since Campbell's under contract, and given our cap situation, it makes more sense to me that we let him play under his current contract this year. Then in 2009 we'll have one more season on which to judge, and at that point we can make the decision to extend him or move on. __________________ Summary of Skins' Salary Cap Status \| CrazyCanuck's Detailed Cap Figures by Player \| Salary Cap 101 Adjust your expectations.

05-21-2008, 03:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
dmek25 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Posts: 8,054	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? im with schneed on this. we need to see more out of Campbell before we lock up any more money in him. and with him already under contract for the next 2 seasons, at a good cap figure, lets make him earn his money __________________ may god save us from these imbeciles courtesy of saden

05-21-2008, 05:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 388	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? Don't count on JC gettin re-signed before the new coaching staff has a chance to see what he does in a real game? This is one of the times when the FO and the coaching staff has to come together to evaluate which direction we want to go as a team. I realize there aren't many franchise QB's out there to choose from but maybe Jim Zorn doesn't see JC as the perfect fit for his system, which Gibbs did view him as, just yet. __________________ Rest In Peace Sean Taylor...you will always be with us in spirit.

05-21-2008, 06:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Posts: 6,674	Re: Time to extend Jason Campbell? The poor guy always has a new offense to run. Give him a year in Zorn's offense, and let him decide. __________________ Apparently not having unrelenting optimism means you're not a fan.

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