Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

T.O.Killa · 05-23-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

How is that harsh? Do you really think without springs, with our pass rush, that we will hold up against eli and the ny receivers and romo and the cowboys receivers? We play in the best division in the league; yeah we have a good team, but without a no.1 corner, we will have a tough time with Dallas and NY. I bleed skins, but I do not agree with not taking a corner in the second round or at least signing depth there. This is a passing league. The cowboys are stacked, Martellus Bennett is 6'7 and he's better than Fred Davis. Him, Witten and T.O. tough!!!!!!! I do think our offense and our run defense will be good.

I dont understand, as far as I know Springs is still on the team and our best corner.

T.O.Killa · 05-24-2008, 12:04 AM

Well, i think our pass rush needs help and we could use more talent at the corners, but I think we will be ok there.

BrudLee · 05-24-2008, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

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Awww...

SmootSmack · 05-24-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

Im just saying I am nervous putting the season on the line of a 33 year old cornerback who's been injured his whole NFL career. Smoot will never be a NO. 1 corner and Tryon and Torrence can not be No. 2s or maybee not even 3's. Rogers will not be himself this season. I think with Mix on the team, we should have drafted Lee and not Kelly. This is relevant to the pass rush, becaue without one it makes are CB's even more vulnerable.

A few thoughts

-"injured his whole NFL career" seems a bit of a stretch for someone who just played all 16 games last year and at least 15 in three of the past four years. I don't deny that Springs is getting up there in age (NFL wise) or that he has had some injuries in the past, but "injured his whole NFL career" is inaccurate.

-Smoot is probably best suited as a nickel/#2 but there aren't many better out there

-I don't know enough about Tyron and think Torrence works hard but might not be talented enough. I agree about Rogers so I certainly would have liked some more depth at the position. But I guess the team feels they may have that with another year of experience for Torrence and with Tyron.

-I think that maybe all that faith you're putting in Mix you should put into some of the corners though, considering Mix has accomplished less than any of them.

Skinny Tee · 05-24-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Justin Tyron will be the nickle corner, you can pencil him in already...For those who didnt see hin play in college, take my word for it he was made to be an NFL corner..I wouldnt worry so much about the corners..if Springs goes down Smoot,Torrence And J.Tyron will man the corners until Rogers is back...The corners will surprise this year...We need to make sure we have a pass rush so they wont have to hold up in coverage for so long...

You have to love this time of year when people think that our entire draft class is going to contribute on the field this coming year and not be a liability in any way.

I too use to have that but then saw many seasons go by where people after the 2nd round have a hard enough time making the team, let alone playing every down.

SmootSmack · 05-24-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

:confused-
It's not that I am putting faith in Mix. It's just that I don't see any reason why he can not be expected to produce just as much as Kelly could produce considering Kelly has not done anything either in the NFL being a rookie. Why not use that pick on Patrick Lee instead and HOPE Mix could fill that big possesion No. 4 wideout spot.

Ok, fair enough. Why Patrick Lee though? Is that just an example or someone who you really were hoping for?

freddyg12 · 05-24-2008, 05:40 PM

James' career seems very much like Courney Penn's, another guy I'm glad we passed on in the draft. Is Penn still playing?

I wonder if James could make the team? Althoug it's a position of need, Wilson is a situational pass rusher & Buzbee will be fighting to make it again. Plus, washington played as a rushing de some last year. James' strength is as a pass rusher, but what we really need is an every down DE to replace Daniels long term.

SmootSmack · 05-24-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

James' career seems very much like Courney Penn's, another guy I'm glad we passed on in the draft. Is Penn still playing?

I wonder if James could make the team? Althoug it's a position of need, Wilson is a situational pass rusher & Buzbee will be fighting to make it again. Plus, washington played as a rushing de some last year. James' strength is as a pass rusher, but what we really need is an every down DE to replace Daniels long term.

Courney Penn???

Do you mean Courtney Brown from Penn State?

Smooter · 05-24-2008, 05:49 PM

lmao, thats great.

mooby · 05-24-2008, 05:52 PM

I wouldn't bother bring Erasmus James in for a tryout. He's not a good defensive end, if the Vikings didn't even try and trade him that just shows how much they think he's worth. You don't cut a first round pick from 4 years ago unless he's pretty much worthless at this point.

rypper11 · 05-24-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

You have to love this time of year when people think that our entire draft class is going to contribute on the field this coming year and not be a liability in any way.

I too use to have that but then saw many seasons go by where people after the 2nd round have a hard enough time making the team, let alone playing every down.

I wouldn't be suprised to see the top 3 picks combine for 30 receptions and nobody else see anything other than ST duty this year. But, I've been beating that horse in other posts since April so....

James is not worth a look. I think some of the reason he was cut was financial (why pay the 4th DE on your team 1st rounder money) but I doubt he'll find a team before the preseason injuries mount for some team.

Mattyk · 05-24-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Courney Penn???

Do you mean Courtney Brown from Penn State?

omg that's hilarious

That Guy · 05-25-2008, 03:08 AM

he'd be a better backup than what we have currently, and would be dirt cheap, so there's no real risk.

Daseal · 05-25-2008, 03:12 AM

Remember when people were upset when we didnt take this guy with our 1st round pick?

That said -- hes good depth, and cheap. At this point we can afford to take maybes at that position.

MrJL · 05-25-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rypper11

I wouldn't be suprised to see the top 3 picks combine for 30 receptions and nobody else see anything other than ST duty this year. But, I've been beating that horse in other posts since April so....

James is not worth a look. I think some of the reason he was cut was financial (why pay the 4th DE on your team 1st rounder money) but I doubt he'll find a team before the preseason injuries mount for some team.

Then why wait to cut him until he failed a physical? It's not like it matters in terms of the salary cap?

05-24-2008, 12:04 AM	#17
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 1,937	re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James Well, i think our pass rush needs help and we could use more talent at the corners, but I think we will be ok there.

05-24-2008, 05:40 PM	#22
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James James' career seems very much like Courney Penn's, another guy I'm glad we passed on in the draft. Is Penn still playing? I wonder if James could make the team? Althoug it's a position of need, Wilson is a situational pass rusher & Buzbee will be fighting to make it again. Plus, washington played as a rushing de some last year. James' strength is as a pass rusher, but what we really need is an every down DE to replace Daniels long term.

05-24-2008, 05:49 PM	#24
Smooter Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oklahoma City Age: 29 Posts: 965	re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James lmao, thats great. __________________ Same freakout different year.

05-24-2008, 05:52 PM	#25
mooby MVP Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NoVa Age: 24 Posts: 11,179	re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James I wouldn't bother bring Erasmus James in for a tryout. He's not a good defensive end, if the Vikings didn't even try and trade him that just shows how much they think he's worth. You don't cut a first round pick from 4 years ago unless he's pretty much worthless at this point.

05-25-2008, 03:08 AM	#28
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 30 Posts: 15,624	re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James he'd be a better backup than what we have currently, and would be dirt cheap, so there's no real risk. __________________ Who says shameless self promotion is stupid? oh yeah, that was me... Click For Tunes!

05-25-2008, 03:12 AM	#29
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 8,058	re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James Remember when people were upset when we didnt take this guy with our 1st round pick? That said -- hes good depth, and cheap. At this point we can afford to take maybes at that position. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

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