Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

jbcjr14 · 05-27-2008, 07:19 PM

I will take the wait and see approach on this one as well. Worst case scenario is that he doesn't make the team and we lose nothing. Best case is the knee is repaired and he has a good year rushing the passer and we lose a 7th rounder. Tremendous upside to this deal if it works out and very little risk. I would take those kind of deals all day long.

prinzeofmoval · 05-27-2008, 07:20 PM

wow thats a tough one to call..not..pass if the guy can't pass physicals why are we gonna tie our money up with him.Lets concentrate on the players we have.

skinsfan69 · 05-27-2008, 07:27 PM

I remember this guy coming out of Wisconsin a few years ago and he was a monster. But he hasn't been able to do much of anything since he turned pro and there is a reason Minn basically cut the guy. Good pass rushing DE's in the NFL don't get cut or traded for 7th round draft picks if they're any good. I just don't think this guy can play at the NFL level.

Daseal · 05-27-2008, 07:27 PM

jbcjr -- worst case scenario is he makes the team, we lose a 7th, and he does nothing. For those of you complaining about the 7th round pick, it comes down to the waiver wire. If James were waived, we wouldn't necessarily have first crack at him would we? Wouldn't other teams get first shot?

Either way -- good depth. There's a chance he could become a pass rusher -- I doubt it. However, he's a very very good backup for us.

wilsowilso · 05-27-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I remember this guy coming out of Wisconsin a few years ago and he was a monster. But he hasn't been able to do much of anything since he turned pro and there is a reason Minn basically cut the guy. Good pass rushing DE's in the NFL don't get cut or traded for 7th round draft picks if they're any good. I just don't think this guy can play at the NFL level.

Back to back to back knee injuries are the major factor with James being released.

Skinny Tee · 05-27-2008, 08:05 PM

I don't think James will make the team. I don't mind the Skins giving him a shot though.

NYCskinfan82 · 05-27-2008, 08:12 PM

Wait and see, a next year 7th round pick for an ex-1st rounder i'll take that worst case he gets cut if we start him on 3rd down pass rushing situations and his age is great 25, we might use rotate DL and keep them fresh lets wait and see at least it gives us something to talk about.

mooby · 05-27-2008, 08:18 PM

Yeah even though I don't think he'll be able to cut it for the 'Skins, if it does work out a 7th rounder isn't that high of a price to pay for him. And if he doesn't work out then no loss.

djnemo65 · 05-27-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

Also how do you start a thread on this web site, because I really want to discuss this Fred Davis pick. Mark my words: Three years from now, we will be on Warpath asking ourselves how the skins could pick Davis over Bennett, who our rival Cowboys picked. He is an awsome blocker, which we need at TE and an awsome redzone target at 6'7, with a 34 inch vertical jump. He played B-ball and could dunk over his coach. Yes, he had 49 receptions, compared to Davis' 62, but most scouts agreed he was poorly utilized at Texas A&M and he was a junior, where as Davis is a senior. Davis only had 38 receptions as a junior and he is a converted WR. Bennett will be WAYYYYY better.

LOL, your career is not off to a great start huh? I think you have to get to 10 posts first.

BTW, there is already at least one Fred Davis thread. Would have made more sense to post this rant there rather than in the Erasmus James discussion. http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-...s-profile.html (Fred Davis profile)

djnemo65 · 05-27-2008, 08:29 PM

Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

Cowell · 05-27-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

I have to agree w/ most of this. I know he has been injured and injuries are a problem. I think (if he can pass him physical) he could be an asset to this team as a solid back-up, something we need on the dline.

Mattyk72 · 05-27-2008, 08:49 PM

Not a bad risk at all. We only lose a pick if he makes the team.

12thMan · 05-27-2008, 08:50 PM

I'm still laughing at Courney Penn?

F*ckin priceless.

724Skinsfan · 05-27-2008, 08:53 PM

Where was it engraved that after the Rdskins traded for Erasmus James that we were done looking for depth at any position? We are deficient in pass rushing depth and the Skins saw an opportunity to grab a player who is very familiar with our D-Line coach. If they don't like him or he simply can't play at our anticipated level then he's cut. Just because we traded for him doesn't mean we are most certainly not keeping our eyes open for potential DB depth.

djnemo65 · 05-27-2008, 08:55 PM

[quote=RIGGO/NYC;450235]huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, QUOTE]

Hahaha, your post questioning how to start a thread was your 10th post. Therefore when you were trying to start a thread you would have had only 9 posts. Wow.

05-27-2008, 07:19 PM	#61 (permalink)
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,819	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James I will take the wait and see approach on this one as well. Worst case scenario is that he doesn't make the team and we lose nothing. Best case is the knee is repaired and he has a good year rushing the passer and we lose a 7th rounder. Tremendous upside to this deal if it works out and very little risk. I would take those kind of deals all day long. __________________ AMD Says... "What, are there no laws in Cambodia about sticking air hoses up your kid's anus?!?!"

05-27-2008, 07:20 PM	#62 (permalink)
prinzeofmoval Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 385	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James wow thats a tough one to call..not..pass if the guy can't pass physicals why are we gonna tie our money up with him.Lets concentrate on the players we have. __________________ IVE BEEN MYSPACED!!!

05-27-2008, 07:27 PM	#63 (permalink)
skinsfan69 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,117	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James I remember this guy coming out of Wisconsin a few years ago and he was a monster. But he hasn't been able to do much of anything since he turned pro and there is a reason Minn basically cut the guy. Good pass rushing DE's in the NFL don't get cut or traded for 7th round draft picks if they're any good. I just don't think this guy can play at the NFL level.

05-27-2008, 07:27 PM	#64 (permalink)
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Posts: 6,674	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James jbcjr -- worst case scenario is he makes the team, we lose a 7th, and he does nothing. For those of you complaining about the 7th round pick, it comes down to the waiver wire. If James were waived, we wouldn't necessarily have first crack at him would we? Wouldn't other teams get first shot? Either way -- good depth. There's a chance he could become a pass rusher -- I doubt it. However, he's a very very good backup for us. __________________ Apparently not having unrelenting optimism means you're not a fan.

05-27-2008, 08:05 PM	#66 (permalink)
Skinny Tee Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: City of Manassas, Virginia Posts: 496	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James I don't think James will make the team. I don't mind the Skins giving him a shot though. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

05-27-2008, 08:12 PM	#67 (permalink)
NYCskinfan82 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 157	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James Wait and see, a next year 7th round pick for an ex-1st rounder i'll take that worst case he gets cut if we start him on 3rd down pass rushing situations and his age is great 25, we might use rotate DL and keep them fresh lets wait and see at least it gives us something to talk about.

05-27-2008, 08:29 PM	#70 (permalink)
djnemo65 The Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 2,205	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

05-27-2008, 08:49 PM	#72 (permalink)
Mattyk72 #21 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Posts: 32,281	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James Not a bad risk at all. We only lose a pick if he makes the team. __________________ Warpath VIP \| Warpath Shop \| DC Pro Sports Report

05-27-2008, 08:50 PM	#73 (permalink)
12thMan Pro Bowl Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 6,113	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James I'm still laughing at Courney Penn? F*ckin priceless.

05-27-2008, 08:53 PM	#74 (permalink)
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,013	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James Where was it engraved that after the Rdskins traded for Erasmus James that we were done looking for depth at any position? We are deficient in pass rushing depth and the Skins saw an opportunity to grab a player who is very familiar with our D-Line coach. If they don't like him or he simply can't play at our anticipated level then he's cut. Just because we traded for him doesn't mean we are most certainly not keeping our eyes open for potential DB depth. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

05-27-2008, 08:55 PM	#75 (permalink)
djnemo65 The Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Japan Posts: 2,205	Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James [quote=RIGGO/NYC;450235]huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, QUOTE] Hahaha, your post questioning how to start a thread was your 10th post. Therefore when you were trying to start a thread you would have had only 9 posts. Wow.

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