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Old 05-27-2008, 01:53 AM   #16
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I say HELL NO! to Roy Williams. He's a slow overrated horsecollarer that is a Cowboy...

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Old 05-27-2008, 05:51 AM   #17
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Great post Dirtbag! Finally a little love for Doughty.
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I think people around here have a little bit of Snyderitis. they must have the big name, can't handle a 6 round hard working kid starting. Doughty played very well for us last season. he and Landry have a nice chemistry, they are a cohesive pair of safeties. We were 8th in the NFL, with out Taylor, with out Rocky, Daniels banged up, Griff banged up, Marcus sitting out. There was a ton of pressure on those two young guys, especially with Rogers out too. His has decent speed, is a smart dude, and anticipates the plays very well.

oh, who is calling for us to sign Roy Williams?? are you people nuts?? He sucks... why do you think the Boys are sitting him pretty much on all passing downs? that isn't what I would call a wise move by trading for him.
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I think people around here have a little bit of Snyderitis. they must have the big name, can't handle a 6 round hard working kid starting. Doughty played very well for us last season. he and Landry have a nice chemistry, they are a cohesive pair of safeties. We were 8th in the NFL, with out Taylor, with out Rocky, Daniels banged up, Griff banged up, Marcus sitting out. There was a ton of pressure on those two young guys, especially with Rogers out too. His has decent speed, is a smart dude, and anticipates the plays very well.

oh, who is calling for us to sign Roy Williams?? are you people nuts?? He sucks... why do you think the Boys are sitting him pretty much on all passing downs? that isn't what I would call a wise move by trading for him.
I agree. Doughty was pretty solid and should continue to improve with experience. Let's give the kid a chance.
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I am not sure why all the Doughty Doubt. I haven't seen him blow a lot of plays or get beaten deep consistently. As I recall he seemed to be a solid if not spectacular player.
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But before they put the wimpy ass horse collar penalty in Williams was tearin it up with that signature tackle they only put the penalty on that cuz TO broke his leg from it
Have you been reading the press on Williams? or heard Newman's comments?
"A deer in the headlights" when it comes to coverage. Ranting in an unsigned memo to the press when a reporter criticizes him? Coaches saying he simply isn't smart enough to grasp the pro-defense?

Williams has ALWAYS been a one dimensional player and, since the retirement of Woodson, has survived on name recognition and Madden-Man-Crush.

As for the horse-collar, it's a wussy ass way to tackle and certainly not "laying someone out".

I'd take Doughty over Williams any day of the week.
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I am not sure why all the Doughty Doubt. I haven't seen him blow a lot of plays or get beaten deep consistently. As I recall he seemed to be a solid if not spectacular player.
He's weak in coverage, especially man coverage.

Most safeties are though. He deserves first crack at the job.
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Great post Dirtbag! Finally a little love for Doughty.
Thanks NM, if you liked that post then you'll love my upcoming "Reed Doughty Bashers - EXPLAIN" thread, where I ambush the people on the forum with one of the most unproductive threads in the history of the Warpath. But all kidding aside I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that feels like Doughty can play.

Doman, no offense but a lot of your rationalizations as to why you want the Redskins to sign particular players seem to be superficial. I'm definately not right 100% of the time and maybe I'm wrong about Doss, but I need a better argument then he's a hard hitter, and tearin it up. Not to mention false accusations concerning Doughty's playing style.
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But before they put the wimpy ass horse collar penalty in Williams was tearin it up with that signature tackle they only put the penalty on that cuz TO broke his leg from it
Instituting a penalty for "horse collar tackles" is not wimpy. That kind of tackle is akin to kicking someone in the knee cap. Besides, if you were a tough guy, would you have to resort to using your body weight to drag someone down by the shoulder pads? IMO, tough guys use violent hits and solid wrap-up tackles to bring players down.
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Horse collar tackle = dirty and cheap
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Horse collar tackle = dirty and cheap
Dirty? Yes. Cheap? Maybe if you have $10k lying around.
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Hey sherrif: answer this then why back in the day was it allright for Butkus's close line tackle ok? The league has since turned into pussy ass league everything is now a stupid ass penalty.
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And I bet u were an idiot that was all over Dion Snaders nuts when he was a redskin. I hated that wimp in a redskins uniform he couldn't tackle for shit
Wrong, but thanks for acting like a 5 year old and discrediting yourself.
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Okay, whatever.



Wrong, but thanks for acting like a 5 year old and discrediting yourself.

Your giving a little to much credit there SGG. I know 5 year olds that are 10 times smarter than that MORON!

And by the way who is 'Dion Snaders'...? I don't remember him? I remember Deion Sanders well and wasn't a fan of his.

But I'm just curious why this doman29 or whoever the hell you are maybe offiss II is still around, he offers absolutely nothing to this board of any merit. Hope they ban your ass, maybe even TODAY!
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:12 PM   #29
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Not to hijack this thread but...

Multiple accounts are not allowed on this site, and if you've been banned once don't try coming back under another username because we will find out and ban you (again).

In fact, if you do that you have the honor of having Matty himself ban you. So just some food for thought doman29 aka artyK75 aka redskins21x.
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Hey sherrif: answer this then why back in the day was it allright for Butkus's close line tackle ok? The league has since turned into pussy ass league everything is now a stupid ass penalty.And I bet u were an idiot that was all over Dion Snaders nuts when he was a redskin. I hated that wimp in a redskins uniform he couldn't tackle for shit
Pussy ass? Have you ever met a retired NFL player? I had three coaches in high school they played in the NFL for about 3 or 4 years each. One coach played for the Packers in the 70's, he has to bend over when he walks. Another played for the Broncos in the late 80's and was on the team when the Redskins played the Bronoc's in the Super Bowl. Today he walks with a limp. And the last guy, well he was a QB for the Saints, and now he has problems that I would rather not discuss here.

And despite the fact that my last paragraph may support your argument, for the NFL turning into a pussy ass league, the fact remains that a lot of the guys that make a living in the NFL, don't leave without some sort of reminder. There are countless lineman that can barely move there hands since they used them for punching opposing players off the line of scrimage. Some can barely walk. Others suffer brain damage. You think Dan Morgan is just walking away from football without any scars?

And its not just on the Pro level. Remember the scene in Varsity Blues where Paul Walker gets a cortisone shot that leads to the end of his football career? You think thats never happened in real life? Still as Mike Ditkas recent campaign has pointed out too many players are not getting the treatment they need after their career is over.

If anything football is even more violent these days. Back in the early days a guy running a 4.5 40 was probably a special thing to have. These days you have defensive lineman that can run in that range. And every year thanks to advancements in training and nutrition the players are getting bigger, stronger, and faster. In turn the amount of PSI (Pounds of pressure per square inch) that players are capable of dishing out has more likely then not increased exponentially. Is the human body evolving fast enough to handle the beating football players take on a regular basis? Probably not, the players might be getting bigger and stronger, but it's still the same human body, only now we have means to maximize its potential.

Some of these rules might be stupid, like the 5 yard contact rule or the recent emphasis on protecting the passer, but since then the NFL has evolved to a point where players have a beter chance to live a normal life after they retire. And personally thats more important then your desire for extreme macho football will ever be.

Edit: Shit, as soon as I finish writing all that you guys ban Doman. Y'all are pussy asses.
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