Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show

Cowell · 06-05-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The NFL needs to do one of two things regarding OTA's. Either make them mandatory or do away with them all together.

Why? If a player thinks he doesen't need to attend OTA's but he still comes back ready to play why bother? If the player thinks they need the extra work then they show up. I really don't think Shawn Springs missing this is a big deal.

irish · 06-05-2008, 10:13 AM

Its not a big deal that Springs hasnt shown up, its a big deal that he cant be reached by the team. He's a pro and should act like one.

skinsfan69 · 06-05-2008, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowell

Why? If a player thinks he doesen't need to attend OTA's but he still comes back ready to play why bother? If the player thinks they need the extra work then they show up. I really don't think Shawn Springs missing this is a big deal.

That's what I'm saying. It's no big deal but everyone makes a big deal out of it. When a guy doesn't show up everyone goes nuts. The coaches, the media and even the players say things about other players when they don't show up. If it's not mandatory then why get all bent out of shape about it? So just make it mandatory or do away with it.

LandrySlice · 06-05-2008, 05:41 PM

OTAs are dumb and I think Landry or Springs don't need to be there, according to Greg Novis, Springs is at los tol tecos getting totally tol tecoed out of his mind buying everyone shots and yelling.... WHOOO! WHOOO! SHOTS? WHO NEEDS A SHOT! WHOOO!

sandtrapjack · 06-05-2008, 05:47 PM

I think there is a place for off-seasoning conditioning and OTA's, they are a good thing for a team.

Organizations put those things in place primarily to protect thier investments in the players. They hire some of the best trainers and conditioning coaches in the world to do one thing....get them ready for 16-plus games of pounding that thier bodies are going to take.

If you look around the league the past few seasons, you will remember all of the little nagging hammys, quads, aches, pains and strains that sidelined players week in and week out. Teams that had those issues had players that "worked out on thier own" and did not participate in the off-season programs.

But the majority of teams whose players participated at team facilities in the off-season, thier injury list was substantially smaller throughout the season, for the most part.

So yeah I think there is a good place for OTA's and off-season programs, and players should take advantage of it.

Dirtbag359 · 06-05-2008, 06:21 PM

Ironically OTA's might be even more important in the near future for young and new players alike (new meaning URFA). With the NFL possibly expanding the regular season by one game while subtracting 2 preseason games the young guys will have little time to work with the coaches.

It's not unusual for a veteran to skip out on OTA's and for some reason go to Arizona to train. As a a result the backups get more work with the coaches, which is valuable because when the season roles around 80% of the reps will go to the starters. Of course I'm estimating on the 80%, but in reality most of their football will be played on the scout team.

GMScud · 06-05-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I think there is a place for off-seasoning conditioning and OTA's, they are a good thing for a team.

Organizations put those things in place primarily to protect thier investments in the players. They hire some of the best trainers and conditioning coaches in the world to do one thing....get them ready for 16-plus games of pounding that thier bodies are going to take.

If you look around the league the past few seasons, you will remember all of the little nagging hammys, quads, aches, pains and strains that sidelined players week in and week out. Teams that had those issues had players that "worked out on thier own" and did not participate in the off-season programs.

But the majority of teams whose players participated at team facilities in the off-season, thier injury list was substantially smaller throughout the season, for the most part.

So yeah I think there is a good place for OTA's and off-season programs, and players should take advantage of it.

Maybe so, but that's not say OTA's prevent those nagging injuries. The Redskins are the kings of hammy injuries, especially last year when we had near perfect attendance during OTA's.

Mattyk72 · 06-06-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

I think there is a place for off-seasoning conditioning and OTA's, they are a good thing for a team.

Organizations put those things in place primarily to protect thier investments in the players. They hire some of the best trainers and conditioning coaches in the world to do one thing....get them ready for 16-plus games of pounding that thier bodies are going to take.

If you look around the league the past few seasons, you will remember all of the little nagging hammys, quads, aches, pains and strains that sidelined players week in and week out. Teams that had those issues had players that "worked out on thier own" and did not participate in the off-season programs.

But the majority of teams whose players participated at team facilities in the off-season, thier injury list was substantially smaller throughout the season, for the most part.

So yeah I think there is a good place for OTA's and off-season programs, and players should take advantage of it.

Got any examples?

prinzeofmoval · 06-17-2008, 01:23 AM

who cares its not mandatory workouts right? We're talking about practice..not the game but practice..practice man practice

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06-05-2008, 10:13 AM	#77 (permalink)
irish The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,813	Re: Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show Its not a big deal that Springs hasnt shown up, its a big deal that he cant be reached by the team. He's a pro and should act like one.

06-05-2008, 05:41 PM	#79 (permalink)
LandrySlice Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arlington,Va Posts: 107	Re: Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show OTAs are dumb and I think Landry or Springs don't need to be there, according to Greg Novis, Springs is at los tol tecos getting totally tol tecoed out of his mind buying everyone shots and yelling.... WHOOO! WHOOO! SHOTS? WHO NEEDS A SHOT! WHOOO! __________________ ME SO ZORNY, ME LOVE YOU LONG TIME!

06-05-2008, 05:47 PM	#80 (permalink)
sandtrapjack Impact Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 837	Re: Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show I think there is a place for off-seasoning conditioning and OTA's, they are a good thing for a team. Organizations put those things in place primarily to protect thier investments in the players. They hire some of the best trainers and conditioning coaches in the world to do one thing....get them ready for 16-plus games of pounding that thier bodies are going to take. If you look around the league the past few seasons, you will remember all of the little nagging hammys, quads, aches, pains and strains that sidelined players week in and week out. Teams that had those issues had players that "worked out on thier own" and did not participate in the off-season programs. But the majority of teams whose players participated at team facilities in the off-season, thier injury list was substantially smaller throughout the season, for the most part. So yeah I think there is a good place for OTA's and off-season programs, and players should take advantage of it. __________________ http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-8/1063154/dware.gif Last edited by sandtrapjack; 06-05-2008 at 05:50 PM.

06-05-2008, 06:21 PM	#81 (permalink)
Dirtbag359 The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Posts: 2,187	Re: Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show Ironically OTA's might be even more important in the near future for young and new players alike (new meaning URFA). With the NFL possibly expanding the regular season by one game while subtracting 2 preseason games the young guys will have little time to work with the coaches. It's not unusual for a veteran to skip out on OTA's and for some reason go to Arizona to train. As a a result the backups get more work with the coaches, which is valuable because when the season roles around 80% of the reps will go to the starters. Of course I'm estimating on the 80%, but in reality most of their football will be played on the scout team. __________________ "What does a new president mean for the space program? Miles O'Brien explains, next." - Wolf Blitzer (Please tell me that I'm not the only one that see's the irony in this quote)

06-17-2008, 01:23 AM	#84 (permalink)
prinzeofmoval Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 385	Re: Updated: Landry Reports to OTAs, Springs Still a No-Show who cares its not mandatory workouts right? We're talking about practice..not the game but practice..practice man practice __________________ IVE BEEN MYSPACED!!!

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