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Old 06-10-2008, 11:29 AM   #46
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Angry's 5 best lineman argument makes some sense. However, though Heyer has the makings of a solid RT prospect, I don't think we can consider him in the same class as the veteran starters. Therefore, if Rabach got hurt, we would obviously play the best four linemen, and a sub.

By moving Jansen off of RT, we are opening up a potential hole on the offensive line much greater than the Center position would be. Having a good RT is more important than having a good C, and as we saw, we could lose the ability to run to one side or the other if we don't have a battle-tested tackle.

I think Schneed might be over-exaggerating the problems that Jansen would have as a Center -- If he's healthy, he should do fine, height shouldn't be an issue. But with the relative fungibility of NFL Centers, it would make more sense to have a competition and find a guy who you feel most comfortable to back up Rabach, then to stretch your team thin at the tackle position in trying to back up your Center.

Not to mention, if no one is getting reps at Center in practice besides Jansen and Rabach, this creates a really bad situation if/when Jansen goes down. Now, you have Heyer in at RT, but no one besides Rabach would even be able to handle Center in a game, and that could be disastrous.
Didn't we have a game either last year or the prior year where our C went down and the othe teamd D just expoled right through the middle of our line? Buge said on the Riggo show that heyer is playing both RT & LT and has really improved over the past year. From the way he was talking Heyer will play a bigger role in the ine this year and has come into camp around 330 and is probably the strongest man on the team. I hope this is true because it will have been a great find for our team.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:29 AM   #47
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I'd much prefer to see Crummey or Rinehart get those 2nd team reps. I really feel that both will have a significant place as O-line starters eventually. Crummey was a great FA signing out of Maryland. He might have been drafted in the 2nd or 3rd round had he not broken his leg last season.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:36 AM   #48
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I think that right now the reasoning behind moving Jansen to center would be that we could do that, substitute Heyer or Wade at tackle and still have 5 guys with starting experience, for the Redskins playing, on the o-line.

Bugel knows what help Heyer and Wade need when they are in because of last year. He sees the best o-line talent at the tackle position (Jansen, Wade, Heyer, Fabini, Reinhart). Looks like he wants to spend all Reinharts time being developed for guard, Jansen is the best option at this time. Plus Jansen is stuck here for a whilewith his salary and if his abailties fall off at tackle, he needs to be able to contribute as a "super-backup" at multiple positions.

I still say we sign a back-up center before the season starts.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:15 PM   #49
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someone earlier mentioned L. bentley. He's back in camp w/the browns:

ESPN - Bentley passes physical, conditioning test on road to rejoining Browns - NFL
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someone earlier mentioned L. bentley. He's back in camp w/the browns:

ESPN - Bentley passes physical, conditioning test on road to rejoining Browns - NFL
Good to hear, he was a great player before he got hurt.
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someone earlier mentioned L. bentley. He's back in camp w/the browns:

ESPN - Bentley passes physical, conditioning test on road to rejoining Browns - NFL
The Browns granted Bentley's request and released him today. We should try to sign him for the vet minimum and let him compete against Rabach.
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I agree. that would be a great signing for the right price!!!
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The Browns granted Bentley's request and released him today. We should try to sign him for the vet minimum and let him compete against Rabach.
Agent says veteran Bentley released by Browns

There's a link. It would be a great idea to sign him for a vet minimum, he is coming off an injury but he passed a physical.
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Agent says veteran Bentley released by Browns

There's a link. It would be a great idea to sign him for a vet minimum, he is coming off an injury but he passed a physical.
Here we go....why should I be so surprised another great 'vet minimum' pickup custom fit just for the Skins.

Did the guy even play last year....? I thought there was even something about a staff infection. I think we have learned something....then again I have to remember where I'm at.

Do ya think he got cut for a reason? He's a high risk injury problem, just maybe OR just can't play?
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Before he was injured, Bentley was one of the top two or three centers in the league. I don't know what his current condition is - it's probably a safe bet that he is not near that form now. I would still sign him for a no SB contract. Center is one of our areas of need and, if he can be had for the right price, he is probably worth a shot. Of course, it all depends on his physical condition. He may just be done. It happens. But, given his level of play pre-injury, and the Skins need at center, this is a "vet min" signing that would actually make sense - a' la Erasmus. Hell, he may not even be available for vet min.
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Here we go....why should I be so surprised another great 'vet minimum' pickup custom fit just for the Skins.

Did the guy even play last year....? I thought there was even something about a staff infection. I think we have learned something....then again I have to remember where I'm at.

Do ya think he got cut for a reason? He's a high risk injury problem, just maybe OR just can't play?
He was a pro bowl player before he got hurt, he got cut because he asked, not because he sucks.
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He was a pro bowl player before he got hurt, he got cut because he asked, not because he sucks.
Well I didn't read the article BUT if hes dumb enough to ask to be cut. What does that usually tell ya, there was some other player BETTER than him getting ready to take his job...right? Or he sucks NOW (don't care how good he used to be) and/ or can't play anywhere if at all near where he could prior to injury.
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Well I didn't read the article BUT if hes dumb enough to ask to be cut. What does that usually tell ya, there was some other player BETTER than him getting ready to take his job...right? Or he sucks NOW (don't care how good he used to be) and/ or can't play anywhere if at all near where he could prior to injury.
I listened to an interview with LeCharles on Sirius this afternoon. He made it sound as if it was a personal thing, something about not happy with how he was treated in CLV. Wouldn't get into it too much, just to say that he wasn't pleased and didn't feel comfortable so he asked to be cut. The worrisome part to me is that the Browns didn't think twice about granting his request.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:53 PM   #59
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I would like to have Bentley, but I know he is drawing a lot of interest, (according to Adam Schefter) so he's probably want to go to a team where he has a better chance of starting.
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He obviously doesn't want to be a backup, which he would be here in Washington. I'd love to have him, I just don't know how it would work out. He was one of the top 2 or 3 centers in football when he got hurt in training camp in 06.
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