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Old 07-19-2008, 06:58 PM   #16
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Re: Insight to drafting Davis

Bottom line, Davis is going to work out good for the team, and will be invaluable if cooley goes down. Look for more from this guy as the season goes down
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Old 07-19-2008, 07:16 PM   #17
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Re: Insight to drafting Davis

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According to Vinny that was it exactly
I get the feeling there is more to it then that. Echer or whatever his name was is not all that great and has been injury prone. If I'm not mistaken we keep asking Yodder to come back every year to help us out. We needed someone young and talented at this position.

I also get the sneeky feeling Coach Buges will teach him how to block just fine when he is on the line. Honestly....Buges could teach a garilla how to block. they must have taken him to compliment Cooley and cause match up problems with other teams. and of course because he was the best prospect still on the board at the time.
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Old 07-19-2008, 07:40 PM   #18
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I get the feeling there is more to it then that. Echer or whatever his name was is not all that great and has been injury prone. If I'm not mistaken we keep asking Yodder to come back every year to help us out. We needed someone young and talented at this position.

I also get the sneeky feeling Coach Buges will teach him how to block just fine when he is on the line. Honestly....Buges could teach a garilla how to block. they must have taken him to compliment Cooley and cause match up problems with other teams. and of course because he was the best prospect still on the board at the time.
That's definitely key IMO. The scouting staff, FO, and coach Zorn especially saw this kid as a bigtime talent w/ huge upside for the WC offense. Whatever their concerns about Davis' ability to block in this league may have been the fact that Buges is there to coach him up meant Davis was too good an opportunity to pass on. I bet we see him make as many clutch catches, including red zone, as Thomas or Kelly will (not combined but individually). I can see us in the red zone, w/ defensive coordinators focusing on Cooley and then we see Davis free himself from the LOS and grab a 5 or 7 yard dunk. I'm pumped to see what he does w/ the ball in his hands.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:09 PM   #19
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That's definitely key IMO. The scouting staff, FO, and coach Zorn especially saw this kid as a bigtime talent w/ huge upside for the WC offense. Whatever their concerns about Davis' ability to block in this league may have been the fact that Buges is there to coach him up meant Davis was too good an opportunity to pass on. I bet we see him make as many clutch catches, including red zone, as Thomas or Kelly will (not combined but individually). I can see us in the red zone, w/ defensive coordinators focusing on Cooley and then we see Davis free himself from the LOS and grab a 5 or 7 yard dunk. I'm pumped to see what he does w/ the ball in his hands.
I think it was more the FO sticking to their board. He's here, and he's got talent, which will primarily be used to spell Cooley occasionally. I see Davis having a pretty respectable preseason, more because he's behind two veteran tight ends and the roster limit is 80. He's definitely got talent, I think the biggest struggle will be him dealing with the frustration that comes from being a rookie TE behind a Pro Bowler (Cooley) and an established vet (Yoder). I would love to see him with 20 catches, but more so for the numbers that projects to our main pass catchers.

I actually think the person who will benefit the most is Sellers. The FB gets a lot of checkdowns in the WCO, the 2nd TE gets blocking duty.
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Old 07-19-2008, 10:52 PM   #20
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I think it was more the FO sticking to their board. He's here, and he's got talent, which will primarily be used to spell Cooley occasionally. I see Davis having a pretty respectable preseason, more because he's behind two veteran tight ends and the roster limit is 80. He's definitely got talent, I think the biggest struggle will be him dealing with the frustration that comes from being a rookie TE behind a Pro Bowler (Cooley) and an established vet (Yoder). I would love to see him with 20 catches, but more so for the numbers that projects to our main pass catchers.

I actually think the person who will benefit the most is Sellers. The FB gets a lot of checkdowns in the WCO, the 2nd TE gets blocking duty.
Your probably correct about Seller's however if they wanted a blocking TE I think they could have picked up someone else other then a pass catching TE who is supposed to be equal to or better then Cooley at pass catching. Cooley's blocking is way better.

Honestly all that's needed is someone to chip the DE or pass rusher and then get open to catch a pass. Cooley and Davis will be a monster problem for opposing teams.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:25 PM   #21
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I felt that teams who utilized two tight ends well succeeded offensively as of recent years. Dallas did it last year, the colts did it last year, the chargers did it well a couple of years ago the giants didn't really utilize two tight ends, but did well with their backup as a sub. This is just said from me watching the nfl on sundays, and of course I didn't watch every single game, so this is only accurate according to my experiences of watching, but it seemed to me that the offenses with two quality tight ends did better. Maybe we just saw that trend and are going to try and replicate it. Other teams seem to be doing it also...Dallas and GB also both drafted TE's high despite being solid at that position.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:29 AM   #22
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I hated this pick at first, because I saw a glaring need for a two way DE to complement Andre Carter. Now that we've addressed that need trading for Jason Taylor, I'm really looking forward to seeing what Davis adds to the offense. I definitely don't see him as a fullback - that would be a total waste of his athletic ability. Cooley, Davis, Malcolm Kelly, and Devin Thomas give Campbell many big targets to choose from in the red-zone passing game. Before, it was Cooley or bust. We have to trust that Zorn has a plan for Davis in this offense.
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I hated this pick at first, because I saw a glaring need for a two way DE to complement Andre Carter. Now that we've addressed that need trading for Jason Taylor, I'm really looking forward to seeing what Davis adds to the offense. I definitely don't see him as a fullback - that would be a total waste of his athletic ability. Cooley, Davis, Malcolm Kelly, and Devin Thomas give Campbell many big targets to choose from in the red-zone passing game. Before, it was Cooley or bust. We have to trust that Zorn has a plan for Davis in this offense.
This is exactly what I would have said if I had tried to respond faster and if I was smarter.

If anything, I could see Yoder playing fullback at times for the next season or two.
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:33 PM   #24
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Re: Insight to drafting Davis

Cooley or bust, but also Sellers was a big time option in the red zone and phasing out the FB in the offense may lead to more oppurtunity to go double tight and have Davis and Cooley as options. Cooley still has tons of gas in the tank, but maybe in a few years his trade value is high and we get a return 2nd rd pick for him from another team similar to what we just saw with Shockey, who knows. I was taken back by the selection at first, but it seems like JC going forward has many weapons to grow with as he masters the new offense.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:15 PM   #25
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Re: Insight to drafting Davis

Davis is no threat to Cooley. He is only going to be a compliment to him. Look what Cooley has done as a Redskin...I saw him on a flash ad today for a Reebok shirt that has built in odor protection!...you think that guy is going somewhere?

Cooley is not going to be surpassed as a starter. Davis is going to help create a mismatch when him and Cooley are in. He'll also give us some additional formations to run.
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