Rocky and Rogers

redskinsfanatic · 07-19-2008, 03:41 PM

are macintosh and carlos rogers gonna be ready for camp or are they gonna miss training camp?it's gonna be hard on the defense if they are'nt able to play.

GTripp0012 · 07-19-2008, 03:44 PM

Rogers won't be ready to go for training camp, and he's probably less than 50% for Week One. McIntosh might be a little tender still, but I'd bet we'll see him in the preseason.

And yeah, September is going to be really, really rough on the defense. No competent depth at corner (unless Tryon establishes himself in the preseason), next to no depth at LB, and of course that doesn't even account for any injuries we might sustain in camp.

Landry is going to have to be a beast back there to keep the big plays to a minimum and keep us around the division hunt through the first five (brutal) weeks.

redskinsfanatic · 07-19-2008, 03:48 PM

hopefully we can sign a few more veteran lbs before game 1 in the meadowlands!

Paintrain · 07-19-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Rogers won't be ready to go for training camp, and he's probably less than 50% for Week One. McIntosh might be a little tender still, but I'd bet we'll see him in the preseason.

And yeah, September is going to be really, really rough on the defense. No competent depth at corner (unless Tryon establishes himself in the preseason), next to no depth at LB, and of course that doesn't even account for any injuries we might sustain in camp.

Landry is going to have to be a beast back there to keep the big plays to a minimum and keep us around the division hunt through the first five (brutal) weeks.

Damn dude, does the sun ever shine where you live?

GTripp0012 · 07-19-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Damn dude, does the sun ever shine where you live?

Not in the last three days, and since it's the midwest, that's actually pretty good for this time of year.

Seriously there are a ton of things to be optimistic about:

- Jason Campbell
- Anthony Montgomery
- Carlos' Rogers quiet breakout season last year
- A rebound year for Clinton Portis (rushing wise, he was an incredible weapon in the passing game last year)
- A rebound year for Marcus Washington
- Laron Landry's beastlyness
- Stephon Heyer and Chad Rinehart
- Chris Samuels' remarkable consistency
- The Tight End Situation
- Shawn Springs' end of career resurgence
- Fred Smoot's mouth
- Younger coaches with impressive development potential
- A watered down Wild Card race in the NFC
- A bunch of critical matchups at FedEx this year, as opposed to on the road last year

The depth in the back seven this year just isn't one of those things.

Darrell_Green_28 · 07-19-2008, 04:53 PM

I read somewheres that Rogers might be put on the PUP list . if so then i would think he wouldnt be allowed back until like week 6 or 8 .. Look under heading THIRD CORNERBACK.

Training Camp Competitions to Watch

Daseal · 07-19-2008, 05:23 PM

Yeah, everyone is saying Rogers won't be ready by week 1. I think they're still not sure where he's going to be. I really think CB is an issue for this team. We have issues with our defense right now, especially at LB and CB.

redskinsfanatic · 07-19-2008, 11:37 PM

does takeo spikes still play for the iggles?if not,he'd be a great solution at lb.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 07-20-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Not in the last three days, and since it's the midwest, that's actually pretty good for this time of year.

Seriously there are a ton of things to be optimistic about:

- Jason Campbell
- Anthony Montgomery
- Carlos' Rogers quiet breakout season last year
- A rebound year for Clinton Portis (rushing wise, he was an incredible weapon in the passing game last year)
- A rebound year for Marcus Washington
- Laron Landry's beastlyness
- Stephon Heyer and Chad Rinehart
- Chris Samuels' remarkable consistency
- The Tight End Situation
- Shawn Springs' end of career resurgence
- Fred Smoot's mouth
- Younger coaches with impressive development potential
- A watered down Wild Card race in the NFC
- A bunch of critical matchups at FedEx this year, as opposed to on the road last year

The depth in the back seven this year just isn't one of those things.

Wow. Nice list seeing as how it brightened my day just that much more.

Nice points.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 07-20-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinsfanatic

does takeo spikes still play for the iggles?if not,he'd be a great solution at lb.

The Goat · 07-20-2008, 12:47 AM

Here's my question to everyone: is it a given that K. Campbell will start at weak-side if Rocky is still ailing (assuming we don't sign a vet)? He led in special teams tackles last year (maybe 06 too, i'm not positive) and I know he's started a few games at weak side and played well.

But the thing I can't stop thinking about is that Campbell is basically the only proven vet at LB. Blades is a big question mark if something happens to Fletch and there's basically nobody behind Washington. I don't see why we let Godfrey get away. And now I can't understand why we didn't sign a vet linebacker earlier. Guess it's possible the FO wanted to see the rooks signed before spending some money in the market and we could still see a vet signed. Thoughts?

(I'm not as worried about CB even w/ Rogers probably gone for 6 or 8 games. Smooty is a damn good corner and tough as nails and it's time to see Torrence step up w/ his phenom speed. Torrence will prolly be 3rd corner and I think we'll still see a damn fine secondary because in the end I don't see how dirty 30 plays anything but FS.)

memphisskin · 07-20-2008, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Goat

Here's my question to everyone: is it a given that K. Campbell will start at weak-side if Rocky is still ailing (assuming we don't sign a vet)? He led in special teams tackles last year (maybe 06 too, i'm not positive) and I know he's started a few games at weak side and played well.

But the thing I can't stop thinking about is that Campbell is basically the only proven vet at LB. Blades is a big question mark if something happens to Fletch and there's basically nobody behind Washington. I don't see why we let Godfrey get away. And now I can't understand why we didn't sign a vet linebacker earlier. Guess it's possible the FO wanted to see the rooks signed before spending some money in the market and we could still see a vet signed. Thoughts?

(I'm not as worried about CB even w/ Rogers probably gone for 6 or 8 games. Smooty is a damn good corner and tough as nails and it's time to see Torrence step up w/ his phenom speed. Torrence will prolly be 3rd corner and I think we'll still see a damn fine secondary because in the end I don't see how dirty 30 plays anything but FS.)

I guess the coaching staff likes the LBs we have on the roster enough to not make it a point of emphasis to go out and bring in anybody, but its still very early and we'll have to see how the waiver wire shakes out. That said, I like the idea of K. Campbell moving from special teams to starting linebacker. I seem to recall another LB having pretty much the same path, and it led him to being a pretty good MLB for us and then the Giants, one Antonio Pierce. Maybe K.C. can develop in the same manner...

redskinsfanatic · 07-20-2008, 10:44 AM

the redskins need to kick themselves in the ass frequently for letting pierce leave!!!!
stupid,stupid,stupid don't come close.

Daseal · 07-20-2008, 11:10 AM

The Redskins didn't let Pierce leave, redskinsfanatic. Pierce wanted to leave. Pierce has badmouthed the Redskins organization many times. Some people just want to leave a town, and Pierce was one of those people. Also, Fletcher is far better than Pierce ever was or ever will be. Unfortunately, I don't expect his career to last much longer.

Paintrain · 07-20-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

The Redskins didn't let Pierce leave, redskinsfanatic. Pierce wanted to leave. Pierce has badmouthed the Redskins organization many times. Some people just want to leave a town, and Pierce was one of those people. Also, Fletcher is far better than Pierce ever was or ever will be. Unfortunately, I don't expect his career to last much longer.

Well, not according to Pierce.. He's claimed on many occasions that he gave the Redskins every chance to match any offer he got, even after he verbally agreed with the NYG he gave one more shot to the FO to match it but they declined. GW said that was his biggest mistake in DC, underestimating Pierce's worth.

07-19-2008, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
redskinsfanatic Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Rocky and Rogers are macintosh and carlos rogers gonna be ready for camp or are they gonna miss training camp?it's gonna be hard on the defense if they are'nt able to play.

07-19-2008, 03:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
GTripp0012 Jason Campbell: Franchise QB Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,977	Re: Rocky and Rogers Rogers won't be ready to go for training camp, and he's probably less than 50% for Week One. McIntosh might be a little tender still, but I'd bet we'll see him in the preseason. And yeah, September is going to be really, really rough on the defense. No competent depth at corner (unless Tryon establishes himself in the preseason), next to no depth at LB, and of course that doesn't even account for any injuries we might sustain in camp. Landry is going to have to be a beast back there to keep the big plays to a minimum and keep us around the division hunt through the first five (brutal) weeks. __________________ "It's mind-boggling to me, really. Look at the tape. Look at my impact on the game. The guys who make it are good players, and I'm not saying I'm better than all of them. But I wish people would watch the games, watch the tape." - London Fletcher on his pro bowl candidacy.

07-19-2008, 03:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
redskinsfanatic Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: Rocky and Rogers hopefully we can sign a few more veteran lbs before game 1 in the meadowlands!

07-19-2008, 04:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mount Gilead, North Carolina Posts: 1,478	Re: Rocky and Rogers I read somewheres that Rogers might be put on the PUP list . if so then i would think he wouldnt be allowed back until like week 6 or 8 .. Look under heading THIRD CORNERBACK. Training Camp Competitions to Watch __________________ "When you think that you are, You act like you are. And when you act like you are, They say you are not."-Darrell Green 2Feb08, Hall of Fame Selection Press Conference.

07-19-2008, 05:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Posts: 6,736	Re: Rocky and Rogers Yeah, everyone is saying Rogers won't be ready by week 1. I think they're still not sure where he's going to be. I really think CB is an issue for this team. We have issues with our defense right now, especially at LB and CB. __________________ Apparently not having unrelenting optimism means you're not a fan.

07-19-2008, 11:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
redskinsfanatic Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: Rocky and Rogers does takeo spikes still play for the iggles?if not,he'd be a great solution at lb.

07-20-2008, 12:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
The Goat Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 607	Re: Rocky and Rogers Here's my question to everyone: is it a given that K. Campbell will start at weak-side if Rocky is still ailing (assuming we don't sign a vet)? He led in special teams tackles last year (maybe 06 too, i'm not positive) and I know he's started a few games at weak side and played well. But the thing I can't stop thinking about is that Campbell is basically the only proven vet at LB. Blades is a big question mark if something happens to Fletch and there's basically nobody behind Washington. I don't see why we let Godfrey get away. And now I can't understand why we didn't sign a vet linebacker earlier. Guess it's possible the FO wanted to see the rooks signed before spending some money in the market and we could still see a vet signed. Thoughts? (I'm not as worried about CB even w/ Rogers probably gone for 6 or 8 games. Smooty is a damn good corner and tough as nails and it's time to see Torrence step up w/ his phenom speed. Torrence will prolly be 3rd corner and I think we'll still see a damn fine secondary because in the end I don't see how dirty 30 plays anything but FS.) __________________ I like turtles.

07-20-2008, 10:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
redskinsfanatic Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: Rocky and Rogers the redskins need to kick themselves in the ass frequently for letting pierce leave!!!! stupid,stupid,stupid don't come close.

07-20-2008, 11:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Posts: 6,736	Re: Rocky and Rogers The Redskins didn't let Pierce leave, redskinsfanatic. Pierce wanted to leave. Pierce has badmouthed the Redskins organization many times. Some people just want to leave a town, and Pierce was one of those people. Also, Fletcher is far better than Pierce ever was or ever will be. Unfortunately, I don't expect his career to last much longer. __________________ Apparently not having unrelenting optimism means you're not a fan.

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