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Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

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View Poll Results: With Phillip Daniels done for the season what should the Redskins do?
Trade for Jason Taylor 43 62.32%
Sign a free agent DE 16 23.19%
Nothing and hope a backup can step up 10 14.49%
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:39 PM   #31
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What's a fair price for Taylor? 3rd round pick that turns to a 2nd if certain requirements are met?
That sounds fair enough to me
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:40 PM   #32
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re: Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

bring in Jason Taylor. we don't have any options. too bad tuna will make us bleed for him.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:45 PM   #33
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re: Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

Well that sucks.

I can definitely see Jason Taylor in a Skins uniform now. Sort of a Catch-22 though. If we trade away our #1 for him, then we can't use that pick to select one in the draft.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:46 PM   #34
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re: Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

a #1 would be too much, unless Taylor agrees to play at least 3 more years, imo.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:48 PM   #35
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re: Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

Sorry guys, I just heard the news on NFL Radio. Shocked is what I am. But NFL Radio was talking to David Elfin from the Washington Times, he is at camp with the team and he saw the whole thing.

Initial report from Zorn was a sprained knee, but word is out that is is probably an ACL injury and Daniels is done for the year.

Elfin went on to report that there are definite rumblings at camp that the Redskins will pursue a deal to land Jason Taylor. Nothing official of course, on the injury or the teams next step.

Sorry to hear this happen to you guys. Report went on to say that the team was not even in pads, but just shells and it happened on the very first play in training camp.

Eerily similar to the injury to LeCharles Bentley when he went down on the first play at camp when he went to the Browns.
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:59 PM   #36
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I cannot believe this. It's not just about the sting of bizarre injuries and a tragedy carried over from last season. Daniels went out of his way to get in the best shape of his life this off-season. His power-lifting vids are monster impressive, but now I have to wonder whether damage was done at some point that made an injury inevitable. We'll just never know. All I know is that I'm f'n depressed.

Like others have said a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Taylor is reasonable. If the Tuna asks for more we should pass, and in that case who can name some good DE's still out there? Do we have any other options?
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Old 07-20-2008, 03:59 PM   #37
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really would be a shame to see all our offseason discipline thrown out the window by giving up too much for jason taylor in a panic move. dolphins wanted a 1st round pick, really would piss me off if we gave that up to get him.
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re: Phillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)

The Redskins have to calm down and not panic into trading the farm for Jason Taylor for only one year. I say give Alex Buzzbee a chance and bring back Dorian Smith for added competition. There will be cuts late in camps from other teams, patience.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:04 PM   #39
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Confirmation from the Post. Oy.

I agree we should not burn down the house to get Taylor. If Daniels was the key to our entire year, getting Taylor aint gonna save us. Only if the price is right.
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I just checked roster stats and it looks like Evans is only 28. He's performed well when Daniels has suffered lesser injuries and I wonder how much of a downgrade he would be as the starter.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:14 PM   #41
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well, I dont know exactly what we're going to do about this, but I do no that whatever we do, we are going to severely overpay for it. Jason Taylor or otherwise. Demetric Evans starting would be a huge joke, and james coming off a 2nd torn ACL would be completely ineffective untill at least the end of the season when it is too late. We need somebody else. At least this happened sooner rather than later. :-(
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:15 PM   #42
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I hope we don't trade our pick for Taylor, even if it's 2nd or 3rd rd.. It is not worthing trading away for a guy who wants to play only one more year..
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I'm not surprised Daneils went down. He was injury plauged way before this year and he was playing on borrowed time.

I don't see what is so wrong with keeping the DE's we have. I know they suck but what was the expectation when we relied on Daniels to start and didn't draft/acquire any DE's this offseason.

We've stood pat on our DE's this offseason when it has been more than obvious the past 3 years we've needed to supplement our pass rush.



I'm not distraught because of Daniels because honestly I'm not surprised he should have retired last year. I'm distraught because the panic button is going to be pressed and we're going to start losing high draft picks.
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a #1 would be too much, unless Taylor agrees to play at least 3 more years, imo.
Before we mortgage the farm for Taylor, Taylor has played the Rush DE postion his whole career. While he is a monster over there, making the transition to strong side will not be easy. While in Madden it might look great to have Carter at one DE and Taylor at the other, this may not translate well in reality. I don't know at this point in Taylor's career if he will hold up against the pounding he'll take over there (or if he'd be willing to), especially in the NFC East. If we have to give up more than a 3rd, I say no deal.

McFarland is still a FA, but he's a DT and the Steelers withdrew an offer for him in March due to a failed physical.
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Old 07-20-2008, 04:31 PM   #45
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Everything I had read about Daniels going into this season was that he was in the best shape of his life, ready to give it another go. This is a terrible omen. Luckily, I don't believe in omens however.
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